Legitimate rapes don't cause pregnancies?

[Former Member]

So this is a justification for refusing rape victims the right to have the product of their rape aborted? Brilliant!

This is not the justification used about the morality of aborting a fetus conceived by rape. The Pro-Life issue is whether the fetus (who is innocent) should be destroyed because of the method of conception. Please don't assume that the Pro-Life position is this ridiculous.

 

[Gameface]

This is not the justification used about the morality of aborting a fetus conceived by rape. The Pro-Life issue is whether the fetus (who is innocent) should be destroyed because of the method of conception. Please don't assume that the Pro-Life position is this ridiculous.

I didn't assume this was the cornerstone of the pro-life movement, but can see it as being something pro-life supporters would lean on in the specific instance that even aborting pregnancies that resulted from rape is banned.

 

[Stoked]

I didn't assume this was the cornerstone of the pro-life movement, but can see it as being something pro-life supporters would lean on in the specific instance that even aborting pregnancies that resulted from rape is banned.

I am pro life personally but believe women, and when appropriate the men involved, should make the decision for themselves. So it should be available. Life endangerment, incest and rape obviously change everything.

 

[Former Member]

I didn't assume this was the cornerstone of the pro-life movement, but can see it as being something pro-life supporters would lean on in the specific instance that even aborting pregnancies that resulted from rape is banned.

Yeah... I would assume that this type of myth started from the Pro-Life movement as well. I'm trying to figure out where. I am appalled by the reasoning behind it... It is extremely hurtful to women who have been raped. Can you imagine someone saying "I'm sorry Miss... I don't believe you were actually raped because you conceived a child." <------- That's horrific.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

I am pro life personally but believe women, and when appropriate the men involved, should make the decision for themselves. So it should be available. Life endangerment, incest and rape obviously change everything.

Wow, we are agreeing on a lot today. Who'd have figured?

 

[Stoked]

Wow, we are agreeing on a lot today. Who'd have figured?

Sun shines on every dogs *** once in a while (you are finally being reasonable).

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Sun shines on every dogs *** once in a while (you are finally being reasonable).

Well, this is a backhanded compliment if there ever was one.

Thanks . . . I guess???

 

[Stoked]

Well, this is a backhanded compliment if there ever was one.

Thanks . . . I guess???

I am to please. See the rep I left.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Caveat emptor to all those who yearn for a return to power of the Republicans. The party is not only firmly in bed with, but also vigorously copulating with, the nut cases on the right wing fringe. If this happens, let's all just pray that the saner members of the party are able to keep the nut cases in check. Personally, I'm not optimistic. (Apparently, this Congressman's beliefs about rape are not uncommon among the Evangelical crowd--not necessarily the prevalent view, but more common than one might think and that would make one comfortable.)

And yes, the left does have its nut cases, but at the present they are no where near as prominent and powerful as the nut cases on the right, and Romney has now staked his candidacy on pandering to these nut cases.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Caveat emptor to all those who yearn for a return to power of the Republicans. The party is not only firmly in bed with, but also vigorously copulating with, the nut cases on the right wing fringe. If this happens, let's all just pray that the saner members of the party are able to keep the nut cases in check. Personally, I'm not optimistic. (Apparently, this Congressman's beliefs about rape are not uncommon among the Evangelical crowd--not necessarily the prevalent view, but more common than one might think and that would make one comfortable.)

And yes, the left does have its nut cases, but at the present they are no where near as prominent and powerful as the nut cases on the right, and Romney has now staked his candidacy on pandering to these nut cases.

I'm interested in your evidence for the bolded statement. I had never heard of this ridiculous idea before today.

I disagree with the underlined statement. Both parties are driven by their own set of fringe lunatic nut wads. If you don't think the Dems have their share then you obviously never visited an Occupy Movement camp. I believe that the vast majority of Americans are reasonable people but unfortunately it's those on the fringe who are constantly writing the narrative.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

The Spurs legitimately raped Al Jefferson in the playoffs.

 

[Dr. Jones]

The Spurs legitimately raped Al Jefferson in the playoffs.

Yes they did. R.I.P.

 

[Siro]

The Spurs legitimately raped Al Jefferson in the playoffs.

Ooh. I thought he was just fat.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

I'm interested in your evidence for the bolded statement. I had never heard of this ridiculous idea before today.

I disagree with the underlined statement. Both parties are driven by their own set of fringe lunatic nut wads. If you don't think the Dems have their share then you obviously never visited an Occupy Movement camp. I believe that the vast majority of Americans are reasonable people but unfortunately it's those on the fringe who are constantly writing the narrative.

I am speaking from experience having worked extensively with Evangelical organizations earlier in my career. I am well familiar with their thought processes but I concede that I can't point to actual survey data. I guess this is anecdotal though I am aware it's not necessarily representative.

I also concede that the left has it's nut cases I said as much. But I stand by my assertion that they currently have far less influence on the political process than the tea baggers and other nut cases on the right. You are simply wrong to try to claim that Occupy is as remotely influential currently than wingnut tea baggers and evangelical loony birds. This might change Some day but in the republican party today the inmates are running the asylum. This is simply not true in the current Democratic party.


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[jimmy eat jazz]

I'm interested in your evidence for the bolded statement. I had never heard of this ridiculous idea before today.

I disagree with the underlined statement. Both parties are driven by their own set of fringe lunatic nut wads. If you don't think the Dems have their share then you obviously never visited an Occupy Movement camp. I believe that the vast majority of Americans are reasonable people but unfortunately it's those on the fringe who are constantly writing the narrative.

I should add that I agree that the majority of people are reasonable. I would also say that a large majority of evangelicals don't believe this nonsense. But enough of them do to make it a real problem.


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[Dr. Jones]

I should add that I agree that the majority of people are reasonable. I would also say that a large majority of evangelicals don't believe this nonsense. But enough of them do to make it a real problem.


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I am an evangelical and I know no one that would agree with the nut job.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

I am an evangelical and I know no one that would agree with the nut job.

I know some who would. But then you would know better than me overall, so I'll defer to you.


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[Joe Bagadonuts]

I am speaking from experience having worked extensively with Evangelical organizations earlier in my career. I am well familiar with their thought processes but I concede that I can't point to actual survey data. I guess this is anecdotal though I am aware it's not necessarily representative.

I also concede that the left has it's nut cases I said as much. But I stand by my assertion that they currently have far less influence on the political process than the tea baggers and other nut cases on the right. You are simply wrong to try to claim that Occupy is as remotely influential currently than wingnut tea baggers and evangelical loony birds. This might change Some day but in the republican party today the inmates are running the asylum. This is simply not true in the current Democratic party.


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I have a feeling that if you lean left then it's the lunatic fringe on the right that you have the biggest problem with and if you lean right it's the lunatic fringe on the left that drives you craziest. You're choice of the term "tea baggers" reveals that you have no intention of reliably reporting what the vast majority of the people in that movement stand for.

 

[nightmare3983]

Naturally, the DNC chair is already tying Akin's remarks to Romney and Ryan. Those upstanding noble Democrats!

https://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket...mate-rape-comments-romney-ryan-140845923.html

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

I have a feeling that if you lean left then it's the lunatic fringe on the right that you have the biggest problem with and if you lean right it's the lunatic fringe on the left that drives you craziest. You're choice of the term "tea baggers" reveals that you have no intention of reliably reporting what the vast majority of the people in that movement stand for.

I stand by my assertion that the fringe on the right is currently much more influential in today's political environment the the fringe on the right. More I don't think this point is really disputable.

The tea baggers agitated against raising the debt ceiling thus leading to a default on us sovereign debt. They were instrumental in bringing the country to the brink of economic disaster and would have if they could have. That alone is enough to understand what the tea party is about and how their fringe and inflexible ideological beliefs are a very real threat to the well being of this country.


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