What's new
By:

Let me do a FAVORs and do a non-draft thread.

Darkwing Duck

Darkwing Duck

Well-Known Member
So HOWARD I'm going to do it? Well, by doing a Derrick Favors, Dwight Howard comparison thread.

Only doing first year Howard to first year Favors.

https://www.basketball-reference.co...m=0&p1=howardw01&y1=2005&p2=favorde01&y2=2011

Some notables from that link. Per 36, they scored near the same and blocked shots near the same. Howard rebounded better and had better stats across the board. Had a 17.2-13.9 edge in PER.

But wait, there's more to the story. I couldn't do a comparison just to the Jazz' portion of Favors' rookie year, so I'll post comparisons here along with Favors' BR page.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/favorde01.html

Let's get PER out of the way. 17.2-16.8. Looks nice, don't it?

Now look at the per 36. 14.6-13.2 points, 2.2-1.7 blocks, 1.5-1.0 assists. All in Favors, uh, favor. Now, Favors rebounded a half rebound less per 36 for the Jazz than the Nets, but rebound percentage tells us that half rebound loss comes solely on the offensive glass.

Concerning percentages, 54.5-57.1 TS% for Howard, 52.9-52.0 eFG% for Favors. Favors also turned the ball over way less in Utah than in New Jersey.

Concluding, Favors, in Utah, played quite comparatively to Howard's rookie season, the only big difference was Favors rebounding noticeably lower than Howard.

Kind of makes you giddy inside thinking about it.
 
Yes I agree.

Favors can potentially become the defensive force inside ala Howard.

That's why we need to draft Kanter.

The End.
 
I really haven't seen Favors all that much thus far. I didn't see any Nets games when he was there and I'm limited as to what Jazz games I can see in Massachusetts. Always have been. After the D-Will trade, there just weren't that many more Jazz games broadcast nationally for the remainder of the season. What I've seen of him at the pro level, though, I liked. Around the time of the trade, I was pretty upset with the status of the team. Between the draft picks this year and the potential on guys like Hayward and Favors, I may just have to spring for League Pass whenever this season begins and in years to come.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Yes I agree.

Favors can potentially become the defensive force inside ala Howard.

That's why we need to draft Kanter.
Click to expand...
Viola. Your non-draft thread just became a draft thread, Duck. Hottnickkk would have been awarded extra credit if he hadn't missed an obvious opportunity to interject Biyombo, and he loses points for forgetting the current site rule that requires that Ferdetter be mentioned in every post.

P.S. Great job with the comparison, DD. I knew Favors reminded me of Howard but I hadn't realized the numbers were this close. This trade is going to go down as one of the most lopsided in history. As early as this year 3/5 of our starting lineup could be a result of this one deal, and next year we get yet another pick!
 
i agree Favors resemble Howard in some ways, but Favors phsycally isnt anythng near Howard yet, thats why he has to work day n night to get close to his level
 
Another fun comparison

Amare 6-10 245
Favors 6-10 246

Amare has a better jump shot and better touch on FTs, So maybe mix between Howard and Amare?
3ZKsO.png
 
Amare is not much on D though; that's where Favors most resembles Howard. Plus, Favors actually has a jump shot, which Howard to this day ain't developed, so yeah, offensively Amare and Favors are more similar... Howard is trying to be Shaq and throw is weight around more, whereas Favors at this point relies more on his quickness and agility. We got an absolute steal from NJ; a deal we could NOT have passed up, IMO...
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Concluding, Favors, in Utah, played quite comparatively to Howard's rookie season, the only big difference was Favors rebounding noticeably lower than Howard.

Kind of makes you giddy inside thinking about it.
Click to expand...

Howard was good enough to start his rookie season and played all 82 games. Favors played less than 20 mpg.

Retarded comparison. /End thread
 
The funny thing is I remember during a KOC interview they declined our first offer and they came back and offered the package they did. I wonder what else the Jazz wanted, maybe Anthony Morrow? Either way, we screwed the Nets in that deal
 
franklin said:
Howard was good enough to start his rookie season and played all 82 games. Favors played less than 20 mpg.

Retarded comparison. /End thread
Click to expand...

You have to take personnel into account. Can't speak for the Nets other than Lopez, but Favors played behind a 20-9 guy and a 17.5-7.5 guy in Utah. Let me read off the names on the Magic roster 6'9" and taller not named Dwight Howard in his rookie year:

Andrew DeClercq
Pat Garrity
Kelvin Cato
Michael Bradley
Tony Battie

I guessed right on determining which of that awesome group of players had the best year. Can you?
 
Darkwing Duck said:
You have to take personnel into account. Can't speak for the Nets other than Lopez, but Favors played behind a 20-9 guy and a 17.5-7.5 guy in Utah. Let me read off the names on the Magic roster 6'9" and taller not named Dwight Howard in his rookie year:

Andrew DeClercq
Pat Garrity
Kelvin Cato
Michael Bradley
Tony Battie

I guessed right on determining which of that awesome group of players had the best year. Can you?
Click to expand...
Patvin DeBradattie?
 
Do you guys think that Utah asked for Brook Lopez in the Dwill trade or just asked for Favors? I was just thinking about that as I was reading this.
 
Jazzfanz said:
Do you guys think that Utah asked for Brook Lopez in the Dwill trade or just asked for Favors? I was just thinking about that as I was reading this.
Click to expand...

they wouldnt give lopez anyway, but actually i would prefer Favors. He has potential to be better than lopez. Lopez- Jefferson would not be such a complimenting couple on the front court
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Viola. Your non-draft thread just became a draft thread, Duck. Hottnickkk would have been awarded extra credit if he hadn't missed an obvious opportunity to interject Biyombo, and he loses points for forgetting the current site rule that requires that Ferdetter be mentioned in every post.
Click to expand...

Don't mean to carry this on in a thread titled non-draft thread. But editing highlights of Favors just makes me want Biyombo more. The idea of having a Favors and Biyombo in our frontcourt to come off the bench next year would be downright scary for opposing teams. I think Favors can score quite efficiently he just needs more opportunity. Biyombo can score near the basket as centers do, that's really all we would need to ask for him offensively. Defensively it would be ridiculous how good we could be.
 
I really have no feel for who Favors compares to yet because I have no idea what his offensive game is going to look like. What I like is the fact he's putting up those numbers on sheer athleticism. He flashes the occasional spin step to the bucket, I've seen him make 14 foot jumpshots. I like the Howard comparison because I think his development is going be refining a power inside game as his body matures. At some point he's going to have a moment on the court when he realizes he's just bigger and faster than most guys he plays against. So he can be very good just rebounding and making himself available on slips to the bucket.

I worry about his skill. I've read that the Jazz want to get proactive in coaching up his post game, but with the lockout they may not be able to. So they need to impress upon him the importance of not just lifting weights this summer. Get a Big Man coach. At the very least, work out with Al. He can learn a ton about footwork and post moves just studying Al.
 
Well i would go into detail about the comparisons but i just cant get over how cute Howards smile is compared to favors.

Case closed for me
 
sportsnut1232 said:
Favors won't be as dominant defensively as Howard or as good offensively as Amare IMO.. I can see a little of both in him though.
Click to expand...
Agree, don't like the Dwight/Amare comparisons...heard a comparison to a late-90's Antonio McDyess back in the spring...in a year or two I could see him becoming a more efficient Jermaine O'Neal.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top