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Letting Paul Millsap leave killed the Utah Jazz
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Honestly Millsap would still be here if it wasn't for Millsap. His actions on and off the court showed he wouldn't be here the following year. I have no problem letting Millsap go. We had two youg talented bigs, and the Jazz needed to see what they had in them. To call Favors overrated is ridiculous. He's been our best player to this point, and we are starting to see real improvement, plus it is looking like the twin towers of Favors and Gobert is showing huge potential, and think in two years both will be better then Millsap. I already feel Favors is better. Millsap is the better offensive player but Favors is greatly improving and his defense is light years ahead of Millsap.
The moral of the story is that the op is an idiot and uneducated when it comes to the business of the nba. Question is and I'm asking because I don't know... If we had kept Millsap would we still have Gobert X and Hood, and how developed would Favers be? Would we even have signed him to that very favorable contract? Would Hayward be in Charlotte?
I was glad we got rid of Millsap then, and love the desection the team is headed in now.
There's no way Millsap is an allstar in the west, and if Favors was in the east it's not out of the question he'd be playing better then he is now, and he's been pretty damn good and even better along side Gobert.
In my opinion it was great courage and foresight to let both Millsap and Al go. In two years this team is playoff bound. In 3-7 years we could be contenders.
The moral of the story is that the op is an idiot and uneducated when it comes to the business of the nba. Question is and I'm asking because I don't know... If we had kept Millsap would we still have Gobert X and Hood, and how developed would Favers be? Would we even have signed him to that very favorable contract? Would Hayward be in Charlotte?
I was glad we got rid of Millsap then, and love the desection the team is headed in now.
There's no way Millsap is an allstar in the west, and if Favors was in the east it's not out of the question he'd be playing better then he is now, and he's been pretty damn good and even better along side Gobert.
In my opinion it was great courage and foresight to let both Millsap and Al go. In two years this team is playoff bound. In 3-7 years we could be contenders.
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Even if Exum doesn't, something had to be done. Neither Millsap nor Favors were happy being subs. And Derrick has said several times he's a PF. Millsap had comparable numbers to last season a few times with Utah, but the West is loaded with PF's; there was no way he was going to be named an all-star in the WC.
Had Utah kept Millsap, what next? Big Al was gone, regardless. So likely re-sign Foye and DMC (the pre-Quin Snyder version), and replace Mo with some other mid-level PG. That's the salary situation the Jazz faced.
Sorry, Yell42, but I just don't see that team ever contending. Millsap, as an all-star, "led" the Hawks to a 38-44 record last year. Utah had a comparable record under Corbin with their veteran-heavy team of Millsap, Jefferson, Foye, Mo and Hayward. Don't blame RJ and Marvin on Lindsey, though. Playing those guys - neither of whom had futures in Utah - so many minutes was 100% on Ty. And I'm sure that was one of the reasons he was shown the door.
And we keep coming back to this "we let Millsap go for nothing" argument which is so annoying. No, Dennis Lindsey had the choice between re-signing him or using the cap space for other purposes. By NOT taking on a longer-term deal, he had the cap space available to make a deal, which he did. Ultimately, by taking on Rush, Biedrins and RJ, the Jazz DID get 1st rounders for both Al and Paul. The only difference is that it got done in the summer and not at the trade deadline.
Atlanta went through the SAME process Utah is going through. They missed the playoffs 8 straight years (which is pretty hard to do in the EC). They've now made the playoffs for 7 years, but haven't had much luck, usually losing in the 1st round, including last year WITH Millsap. They brought in a new coach, made some roster changes and are now hitting their stride with players stepping up (Teague) and being healthy (Horford). I'm sure there were a lot of fans, though, who questioned why the Hawks got rid of Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Williams and Mike Bibby - four of their top five scorers - who had taken them to the EC semis. Atlanta rebuilt, just as Utah is doing.
Exactly. Perplexes me that folks keep missing this point.
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Favors will get to play PF and Gobert at C. Favors is a better defender than Millsap (tweener). Favors has continued to develop his jumper and will be a 20/10 guy next season. He's 23 and is 16/8.6 now - the guy is going to be a star.
I like Millsap and would have loved him at SF but it didn't happen. Now we have Hayward there (though he could play 2 if Millsap played 3). Our 3-5 isn't the problem - it's our 1-2. I'm not completely sold on Burks and our PG situation sucks. We need a PURE PG and a SG who can play lock-down D.
I like Millsap and would have loved him at SF but it didn't happen. Now we have Hayward there (though he could play 2 if Millsap played 3). Our 3-5 isn't the problem - it's our 1-2. I'm not completely sold on Burks and our PG situation sucks. We need a PURE PG and a SG who can play lock-down D.
Jamezz
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Raul Neto & Millsap
Jamezz
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I agree. Nothing wrong with having a PURE backup PG though.
Kyoto
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Fair warning, Jimmer was unstoppable on offense in college but in the NBA he can't hit a 3 to save his life.