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I think them playing over seas hurts the owners, no question at all.
I 100% side with the owners on the whole lockout, but players have the right to play bball where they can. Its not apples to apples and doesn't hurt the players to play there AT ALL.
 
Scorpjazz said:
I think them playing over seas hurts the owners, no question at all.
I 100% side with the owners on the whole lockout, but players have the right to play bball where they can. Its not apples to apples and doesn't hurt the players to play there AT ALL.
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At all? They're making maybe a quarter of what they'd make over here, far away from their family, friends, the culture, all while slowly wasting away the few years they have to make NBA change. In short, I'd guess it would cost the average NBA'er a few million this year alone. More likely, for most, their entire paycheck.
 
Ok, check it out ya'll. The players are promoting basketball in other countries. I can't see how that's NOT a slap in the face of the owners. If basketball starts growing outside of the United States, those owners have to compete with the rest of the world for salary negotiation instead of just each other.
 
lesab96 said:
Ok, check it out ya'll. The players are promoting basketball in other countries. I can't see how that's NOT a slap in the face of the owners. If basketball starts growing outside of the United States, those owners have to compete with the rest of the world for salary negotiation instead of just each other.
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... or, basketball becomes an even hotter commodity internationally, than it already is, and the NBA enjoys better TV revenue, merchandising, etc.
 
lesab96 said:
Ok, check it out ya'll. The players are promoting basketball in other countries. I can't see how that's NOT a slap in the face of the owners. If basketball starts growing outside of the United States, those owners have to compete with the rest of the world for salary negotiation instead of just each other.
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Do you think the EPL was scared when the MLS was born?
 
PKM said:
... or, basketball becomes an even hotter commodity internationally, than it already is, and the NBA enjoys better TV revenue, merchandising, etc.
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I'm sure Stern and some owners are secretly happy that some players are going overseas. There's nothing wrong with getting more eyes to see your product. Even if the lockout ends and the NBA season starts on time, there will be a lot of people in Turkey who will now want to watch DWill for the mere sake of seeing what they could have had.
 
lesab96 said:
Ok, check it out ya'll. The players are promoting basketball in other countries. I can't see how that's NOT a slap in the face of the owners. If basketball starts growing outside of the United States, those owners have to compete with the rest of the world for salary negotiation instead of just each other.
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Really? Do you honestly think any NBA owner is worried about competing with Turkey in salaries? Turkey is paying Deron 5 million. The NBA would have to pay Deron 17 million. The NBA owners would LOVE to compete with overseas teams for salaries. I'm sure some NBA team would completely overpay Deron and pay him 13 million a year.
 
SalmonHobo said:
At all? They're making maybe a quarter of what they'd make over here, far away from their family, friends, the culture, all while slowly wasting away the few years they have to make NBA change. In short, I'd guess it would cost the average NBA'er a few million this year alone. More likely, for most, their entire paycheck.
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They are NOT making a quarter of what they would make here. THEY ARENT making anything here, so anything they make there is bonus, PLUS they get to play. They are NOT wasting away the few years they have in the NBA if the NBA isnt running.
 
Scorpjazz said:
They are NOT making a quarter of what they would make here. THEY ARENT making anything here, so anything they make there is bonus, PLUS they get to play. They are NOT wasting away the few years they have in the NBA if the NBA isnt running.
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If you had a boss that was raking in the dough hand over fist off of a product that you made then wanted to put a cap on how much you'd make at $200,000/yr even though you're generating $500,000 for the company, and instead of sticking around and trying to come to a reasonable agreement, would you try to stick it to him by going to a different company that will pay you $80,000/yr? Not sure I'd blame you if you did, but what I don't get is why you'd jump at the opportunity to get your $80,000 somewhere else instead of making that your last resort.
 
And I forgot to mention that there would be a 100% chance that you'll see all of that $200K, and about a 50% chance you'd see all of that $80K.
 
Scorpjazz said:
They are NOT making a quarter of what they would make here. THEY ARENT making anything here, so anything they make there is bonus, PLUS they get to play. They are NOT wasting away the few years they have in the NBA if the NBA isnt running.
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And why isn't the NBA running? Oh forget it, you're utterly clueless.
 
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