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locke's idea - big man rotation

If I'm Corbin, I make sure Jefferson knows his defense sucks. I bet Al's the sensitive type so I do it behind closed doors most of the time but I do it and do it as often as needed, and don't just verbalize it but teach, teach, teach using video footage and such. I also do pull him from games here or there (especially early on with unacceptable laziness or insanely slow rotating/helping) and make it known on the spot as to why he was pulled. I think he genuinely cares (more than Boozer did anyway) and it may light a fire under his ***.

I don't however openly talk about his substitution patterns and how it can hide his deficiencies. Rather, I talk about how it can take advantage of our strengths.

Not that this was what the OP's post was totally about but...
 
Not our choice, ultimately. Paul's going to get paid and get minutes somewhere else.

Also, just because Locke is trying to make Millsap happy and maximize Al's production in a log-jam situation, doesn't mean Al shouldn't start.
 
Main problem I have with this is that Al did, indeed, average great numbers playing against the Number 1's last year and throughout his career. So that premise is already shot out of the water, IMO..I dont have a big problem with lowering his minutes some, if we keep him, so as to get Sap and Kanter more minutes, but to say it is because Al cant play against the #1's is silly. It was specifically pointed out that it was his offense that suffered, but that is exactly why the point is flawed, IMO..He can score against any D, it is his lack of Team D against #1's that hurts more, but that wasnt used as the reason.
So, in effect, yes, start AL, lower his minutes some (slightly) to get Sap and Kanter more time, but not for the reason stated.
 
dalamon said:
Woah so tell me, how many games did Paul play in December again? A 4 game sample should just be tossed out of the window, really. You might as well throw that in together with January. Now compare that to February. I'd say that's quite the jump down in production. I'm also curious as to why you didn't post FG% figures


Now I know why. Millsap went from 54% to 45% from January to February. Show some intellectual honesty, this repetitive confirmation-bias charade is hilarious.

EDIT: It is also intriguing as to why you post per36 numbers, for a player who played >30 in almost every month of the season (again, aside from an injury-riddled first 4 games)

To those of you who don't know, Paul Millsap averaged 13.8 PPG in February. He averaged 18.1 PPG the month before
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ok so throw out december. i only left it in there because i was sure i'd get called out for excluding it if i didn't.

the reason i used pp36 instead of ppg is because he played 30 minutes in february, his lowest of the season. you can't really call it a slump if the only real variable is that he's playing 9% fewer minutes but still producing roughly the same on a per-minute basis. and either way, the myth of a major late-season slump by paul is disproven by these numbers. he had a slightly lower february because he suddenly was getting fewer minutes and fewer shots than during the whole rest of the season.

(and this is anecdotal, but i'll still add it)... i also know from my paul/al study that february was the month that paul was basically frozen out of the offense for entire fourth quarters. he seriously had several 4th quarters with 0 or 1 shot attempt.

by the way, al's FG% was never as high as 54% to begin with, so which is worse? al's had ONE month where his PPS was better than paul's worst month of the year. so if a paul "slump" is better than 75% of al's season, then i'll take paul's slump.
 
theNBAnerd said:
ok so throw out december. i only left it in there because i was sure i'd get called out for excluding it if i didn't.

the reason i used pp36 instead of ppg is because he played 30 minutes in february, his lowest of the season. you can't really call it a slump if the only real variable is that he's playing 9% fewer minutes but still producing roughly the same on a per-minute basis. and either way, the myth of a major late-season slump by paul is disproven by these numbers. he had a slightly lower february because he suddenly was getting fewer minutes and fewer shots than during the whole rest of the season.

(and this is anecdotal, but i'll still add it)... i also know from my paul/al study that february was the month that paul was basically frozen out of the offense for entire fourth quarters. he seriously had several 4th quarters with 0 or 1 shot attempt.
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None of your points address his almost 10% drop in FG%. Sap shooting 45% after shooting 54% the month before is most-certainly a slump if I've ever seen one. And did you never stop to think that maaybbbbeee he got less minutes BECAUSE he wasn't being as effective? You don't seem to be considering this in any of your posts.

by the way, al's FG% was never as high as 54% to begin with, so which is worse? al's had ONE month where his PPS was better than paul's worst month of the year. so if a paul "slump" is better than 75% of al's season, then i'll take paul's slump.
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Since when was this our point of discussion? If you take me as an Al-fanboy, you are quite mistaken. The topic was whether Sap had a pre-allstar break slump. And he totally did, which many variables seem to indicate.
 
dalamon said:
None of your points address his almost 10% drop in FG%. Sap shooting 45% after shooting 54% the month before is most-certainly a slump if I've ever seen one. And did you never stop to think that maaybbbbeee he got less minutes BECAUSE he wasn't being as effective? You don't seem to be considering this in any of your posts.




Since when was this our point of discussion? If you take me as an Al-fanboy, you are quite mistaken. The topic was whether Sap had a pre-allstar break slump. And he totally did, which many variables seem to indicate.
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my point is just that no player has the same exact shooting or scoring numbers every month of the season, and paul's variation from month-to-month gets totally overblown. in february, he maintained very close to the same points per minute and points per shot despite getting fewer minutes AND shots. yes, his FG% also dropped some, but whose wouldn't when you suddenly reduce their minutes by 9% and their shots by 14%? by the way, his TS% was still .515 that month, compared to .581 the month before and .548 the month after. so even in what people are calling his "slump" month, paul was very much still getting it done.

again, i'll say: paul's PPS by month (excluding december) was 1.30, 1.16, 1.24 and 1.24. al's was 1.14, 1.08, 1.20, 1.07. i know you are not the one making an al comparison, but my point is simply that NO player's output is completely flat over the course of the season, so whose inconsistency would you rather have out of those two sets of numbers? al's number vary just as widely as paul's from month to month, but paul's are much higher to begin with. (and btw, i didn't include december for al either, but if i did, it was a horrible .90).
 
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Did you saw how Millsap started to play after he appeared on TNT or ESPN (I don't remember exactly which of them)?

I mean not by numbers, but by body language and so on.

I tell you, there are people who are not shy to be the best and to dominate. And Millsap maybe is that kind of "shy" guy.

After his very good performances against top PF like Griffin and others media started to talk, after what he just started to be just a solid player ,so the media to go away.
 
theNBAnerd said:
yes, his FG% also dropped some, but whose wouldn't when you suddenly reduce their minutes by 9% and their shots by 14%? by the way, his TS% was still .515 that month, compared to .581 the month before and .548 the month after. so even in what people are calling his "slump" month, paul was very much still getting it done.
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Although I think it's pretty obvious injuries limited his shot attempts and minutes in February, this whole argument misses the point. No one is taking shots away from Paul. The problem is Paul can't reliably create shots for himself night after night. He's an excellent player, don't get me wrong, but he's very matchup affected.

The reason there's a perception, fair or not, about Paul's play being susceptible to injury probably isn't the little injuries. It's that he has a tendency to lay out his fair share of stinkers. PPS and TS% don't mean a whole lot when you have a lot of nights where you just can't get it going.

I love the guy, and I think he's a starting 4 in the league. But he's not a guy you can play through in the post, he can't command double teams, and he'll always be most effective on teams that have multiple reliable scoring options (which, at present, isn't our team.)
 
Don't the majority of players do better against the scrubs or second tier players then the first tier? I think the question should be, who does the best against the first tier players. Is it Al or someone else.
 
Dread said:
Don't the majority of players do better against the scrubs or second tier players then the first tier? I think the question should be, who does the best against the first tier players. Is it Al or someone else.
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Look at the Spurs series. We fought them only when Favors was on the court.

And I remember very well when we played in Charlotte, Al simply humiliated Bismack Biyombo.
 
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