Also the Jazz underachieving year after year relative to expectations due to injuries has depreciated all their assets in a very unfortunate way.
Locke's Tone: Tank on The Horizon?
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The real problem after wasting their assets was they never addressed the elephant in the room. Getting more size and athletic players who can create their own shots on the wing. I agree the way the CBA is now the window to win is even smaller. Golden State is doing a good job with getting young players to develop so when their core ages out they will be ready to go, they also have an owner who is willing to pay the luxury tax to win.
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Maybe... the issue is we are trying to trade like for like. Hey I'll trade you a good player now for a different kind of good player. Like trying to do a car swap... except we are trading older SUVs and trying to get an electric car that everyone is after. Its much easier to just trade the car for cash and get appropriate value.
If you were just trying to get picks I think you could net 3-4 picks for Bogey, Mike, Royce if you didn't care about the expiring salary you take back.
I know I am preaching to the choir on this but its why a tear down is more profitable today than in 1 year.
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The main reason we don't have value is because their contracts are bad value:
Conley overpaid
Royce overpaid
Gay overpaid
Gobert overpaid
Bojan expiring
We only have one player who has lost any value due to injuries and that's Conley. But if he was paid correctly, injuries wouldn't be an issue.
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I think its just we are trying to trade vet for vet and get an upgrade. Trades just don't work that way.
Take CJ McCollum... he was rumored in various trades for a while, but until they decided to trade him for expirings and draft picks it never materialized.
I think Conley is partly a position thing right now. If we wanted to get a pick and some cap relief for Royce we could in a second. If we wanted to move Bogey for similar salary and a first we could... but all of those deals will mean we are likely less good next year... and we supposedly find that unacceptable.
You are an asbolute clown if you dont think that injuries, which have been the main contributor to the Jazz losing series, hasnt resulted in the Jazz assets value being lowered.
I'm not saying the specific injuries to the specific players caused the value to lower, it's the injuries that caused the Jazz to lose series, which prevented them going further in the playoffs, which results in lower of value. Dont be a fool.
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Couldn't have said it better.
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The Jazz have put Rudy out there and nobody wants to pay the cover price the Jazz are asking. At this point they really need to take a hard look at what we have and the realization should be that if are to make any kind of turn around in the future we need to trade Mitchell. I still would love a Mitchell to Orlando trade. I want Wagner for the Jazz.
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LoPo
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Injuries hurt our chances to win series in 2020 and 2021.
Injuries are irrelevant with regards to our players having weak value right now. The value is low because their contracts are bad.
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Indeed. And have made other decisions that made it clear that getting out of the luxury tax was not the priority. We have clearly made decisions financially motivated but not shied from the tax. I am not sure we will at this point either but it wouldn't surprise me.