Lowe: Gobert needs a post game for the Jazz to contend

[Stoked]

What does any of that (besides maybe that vague "that hook") have to do - specifically - with imposing a physical advantage over a defense?

The main point I took from it was that Gobert needs to be able to make a team pay on O and prevent a small lineup. A post up game is not the only way to do that. He has another physical advantage, his height and length.

If he developed what I stated the opposing team would need to play a bigger player on him.

Yes the hands part is about catching the ball, and maintaining posession, as he cuts to the basket off a pick and is in traffic.

The "taht hook" (eh, it happens) is simply the hook shot he started using as the season wore on.

The three things I listed come from his current game or areas he shows promise in. It is not changing that much about him really. He is already developing a hook shot, he often loses the ball once he has it in traffic due to being stripped and his FT% and height give me hope that he can have a decent FG% within 10 feet.

 

[zman1527]

That's another thing: if a team decides that they have to faceguard to prevent entry passes, that creates a ****ing mountain of offensive rebounding opportunities. A team would never do that if they can just throw some SF on Gobert and he's completely impotent in exploiting that in the post.

Sorry, I was not clear. I meant face guarding on rebounds. They can and will do that. Should open things up for our other big that way though.

This is going to be interesting to watch. Quin and company will have some tricks up their sleeves. But can that make up for a Lebron/Curry/Harden? Jazz still don't have "that guy" and it still looks like a big deal. Atlanta was great in the season, but has been shown up in the PO.

 

[zman1527]

Yes the hands part is about catching the ball, and maintaining posession, as he cuts to the basket off a pick and is in traffic.

I have not seen that problem with Rudy: he catches the ball perfectly well. Getting stripped I think has less to do with hand strength that it does with his length. At his height and length when he holds the ball in front of him in a normal manner, it is very available to anyone to take a swipe at: his arms stick out about 10 feet and the ball is at chest height on most guys. Maybe more important to work on ball position than on strength.

Gonna be interesting to watch this team develop in the playoffs the next few years (I hope!).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm not sure you really know what the point of the article was. The point was that playing in the post is more important in keeping defenses honest than deliberately and methodically running your offense through it. Nobody on earth is suggesting that Gobert needs to become, could become, or maybe even should become Hakeem.

The article is dead on (and we/I have discussed this before). If Gobert can't make teams pay for putting their Harrison Barnes on him and dragging a big out of the paint defensively, then that's a **** up and should be addressed. Again, we're not talking about running post-ups for Gobert as a bread and butter play. Just talking about being able to take advantage of a clear physical mismatch. It's a big deal.

Huh... People were saying he should work on his post game and I was like nah he's more likely to be able to take advantage of a smaller player by punishing them on the offensive glass. I didn't address them dragging Gobert out because that is another issue that wasn't being discussed ATM. Other posters were indeed talking about him working on a post game.

The other bigs in the playoffs (mozgov, Bogut, Thompson) have not been posting up at all and they are still net positives and are taking advantage if getting rebounds. I'm just not sure where I missed the point.

 

[NAOS]

I'm like 1000 X more stressed about Favors learning to be better in the post. Even after the Corbin years....

 

[MTS]

Our head coach is a genius and Rudy is a solid passer, has high bball IQ, and above all has the drive to get better.

I'm optimistic.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I don't worry about Rudy. He'll either develop a respectable post game or if he never gets there, he'll kill em on the offensive boards when they go small.

 

[Joncolton]

I don't worry about Rudy. He'll either develop a respectable post game or if he never gets there, he'll kill em on the offensive boards when they go small.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgtFt9KQdgU

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm like 1000 X more stressed about Favors learning to be better in the post. Even after the Corbin years....

Our head coach is a genius and Rudy is a solid passer, has high bball IQ, and above all has the drive to get better.

I'm optimistic.

I don't worry about Rudy. He'll either develop a respectable post game or if he never gets there, he'll kill em on the offensive boards when they go small.

All these.
Rudy is the player to worry about the least

 

[vegas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQykFxjlFz0
4:55 one step from free throw to dunk.
5:13 original salute

PS did it occur to you gays that everyone is playing small ball vs Rudy. He could climb everest w/o oxygen.

 

[fishonjazz]

Damn, I love the salute

 

[framer]

My dream is for him to be able to hit the jumper from the right side of the free throw line where he spends 50% of his time when holding the ball waiting for someone to come open. Ain't no undersized dude going to defend that, and it isn't that much different from a free throw where Rudy hits better than 50% If he could hit a few of those a game that interior pass he is looking for would be open at a much higher percentage. His quick enough that if a large dude tries to defend him out there he could move around him for the dunk. We wouldn't have to alter the offense at all to accommodate Rudy on that shot.