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That would be fine but just like Exum (Mack/Neto) the alternative (in this case Diaw) is actually worse on defense and has no upside. Lyles despite his shooting struggles is still shooting the three ball better than Diaw and whilst Diaw may pick up more assist, I would hardly say the offense flows when he is in the game. A lot Diaw assist are of a result to a cut the basket whilst Diaw post up, which isn't free flowing basketball.
It makes absolutely no sense to play Diaw when 1) he is not going to be here post this season and 2) he isn't contributing to the team winning anymore than Lyles was.
People should check Diaws advanced stats to see just how bad he has been this season. Bottom 10 for RPM, shocking wins shares, terrible offense/defense rating. You name it and he is sucking.
Some don't change based on small sample. Kid is 20 and has NBA skills plus size. Too early to reach conclusions. After next season perhaps.
Definitely. I wonder if Quin is cutting the rotation or just sending Lyles a message.
gregbroncs
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You could be right that Diaw is worse, but I don't think so Lyles is almost non existent on defense. But it is far better to send a message like this to a young guy that if he wants to play his defense has to improve. Since Exum has been back in the lineup his defense has been way better than before his break.
If you want to develop the young guy then you can't continue to blindly play them when they are not doing what you ask of them on the court.
NAOS
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Member when he was the PF of the future, you know, cuz spacing?
Glad to know it's okay to bag on Lyles. Bookmarked.
NAOS
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pls edit your post and make your opinions about Lyles derivative of your feelings about Favors (added rep if you can go the extra step and then make your feelings about Lyles derivative of your feelings about JFC's takes on Favors).
(Basically, make this as little about Lyles as possible tia
gregbroncs
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I guess I just don't see glaring holes in the roster. We have a few needs but most of them can be solved by being healthy.
Also we are not really a contender and none of the moves that have been suggested change that.
NAOS
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back-up 1 and 4 has been a problem all year. Maybe Dante is rounding a corner and solidifying one of those spots. And it hasn't just been back-up 4 that's been the problem; due to Favors' limitations we've pretty much had PF problems all year. Yes, JJ has had some good moments, but that has definitely been a position of weakness.
AND LET ME RE-****ING-ITERATE: WE ARE BELOW THE GODDAMN SALARY FLOOR. WE AREN'T EVEN PAYING MINIMUM WAGE.
gregbroncs
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We have young players at those positions who can use experience. Right now Lyles isn't getting it but I have confidence that he will be back on the floor rather soon. Favors is getting better, Exum is rounding into shape. We are not getting past the 2nd round, we are unlikely to get past the 1st round. None of the options listed or available change that in the slightest. Getting these guys experience and having them improve is the best for this team going forward. Getting another washed up vet to accomplish the exact same end result is counter productive.
I don't give a flying **** what the salary of this team is. I didn't and don't see available deals that improve this team in the long run. Since this team is not ready to win a title the long run is all I really care about.
Deron Williams
Andrew Bogut
Louis Williams
The guy just released from the Pelicans
None of those guys change the best case scenario for this team, right now. All of them could have lasting negative consequences going forward.
NAOS
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Based, then, on his rookie season and the continual disappointment of his Sophomore season? emmk.
That's ****ing ********. We have 8 out of 10 things needed to get passed the 1st round and put up a serious challenge in the 2nd. One of those 8 things is likely to be HOME COURT ADVANTAGE, for christ's sake. The missing ingredients are depth (again, at obvious spots) and experience. You can get depth and experience at the same time via the right acquisitions.
Blah blah blah
What other team assets do you think should be mismanaged?
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gregbroncs
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LOL
nothing has been mismanaged. The rebuild is right on schedule. We have all the pieces and assets to be a great team going forward.
You say we need a 1 and 4. What are legitimate options that make a difference? Without giving up any of Hill, Hayward, Favors, Gobert, Hood, Johnson, Ingles, and whichever piece you think is #8 of the pieces we already have. I would say Exum, and Lyles should not be traded for trash either.
But go ahead keep bitching it's negative Nancies like you that make this board hilarious to me this time of year. I'm sure you bitch about it every trade deadline.
Bottom line, I didn't want or expect changes at the deadline.