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Majority of Utahns wants to scrap state’s monopoly on booze

Lucky for us in the SL valley they stay open until 10pm.

And while we have a few around any pre-holiday shopping day is ****ing bananas.

I'd hope if they went private then we could buy wine at Trader Joe's and liquor at Costco, but I doubt that's what privatization would actually mean. I figure it'd be the same 4%abv limit at retail stores and on draft beer, and private liquor/wine/"strong" beer stores.

Personally what I'd like to see the most is dropping the 4%abv (3.2%abw... the scale that is never ever used except to describe "utah" beer) restriction.

The one here is always clean, fast and friendly. Nice overall selection as well. But the hours and lack of cold choices is a joke.
 
Lucky for us in the SL valley they stay open until 10pm.

And while we have a few around any pre-holiday shopping day is ****ing bananas.

I'd hope if they went private then we could buy wine at Trader Joe's and liquor at Costco, but I doubt that's what privatization would actually mean. I figure it'd be the same 4%abv limit at retail stores and on draft beer, and private liquor/wine/"strong" beer stores.

Personally what I'd like to see the most is dropping the 4%abv (3.2%abw... the scale that is never ever used except to describe "utah" beer) restriction.

I would like them to make exceptions to the law against selling alcohol on state land. It would be cool when they finally rebuild the south stands at Rice Eccles if they did a 21 and over section with beer. Football is better with beer, it just is.
 
Not that I'm against privatization of liquor sales in Utah (I am very much for it)... but one Con that isn't being mentioned much is the $151 million of profit these stores generate for the State.
If that goes away, it hurts. That's not a small chunk of change.
 
What are the pros and cons?

If you're a real Statist and a Progressive Democrat, you might think it's the government's business to regulate soda pop, too. Think of the obesity and diabetes we all have to pay for outta the State purse. . . uhh. . . the collective asset pool.

Since I don't like any more government than is needed to keep the British outta Utah, I'm just pissed that Rio Tinto can own mines in Utah, and consider the government good for nothing at all.

State of Utah should not be allowed to run any business, or make any law about what people wanna eat, drink, smoke, or swim in.
 
You know in Utah, if alcohol sales were privatized, someone will come in and open up an incredibly awesome store. The various microbrews are a testament to this. Even the Smith's in Mesquite puts any Utah State Liquor store to shame.

In St. George, going to the liquor store feels like a profiling experiment. There's this big brute who lords a corner and isn't shy about giving you the hairy-eye as you peruse. You see a good sum of tax dollars parked in front of these stores in the form of an undercover car, or a Charger- sitting there doing nothing while some asshat from the police department gawks at customers in civilian clothing. It's just there to remind you that you willingly participating in an indulgence that the state does not like.

Their big thing here is trying to catch people buying liquor when they've already drank, regardless if they drove there or not. The cop will stand there and literally bag your bottles. I saw a guy that was acting completely normal (may have exhibited characteristics aesthetically that he had been drinking), get his order snatched, told to leave, and subsequently followed by Mr. Liquor Store Security. If privatization happens, this stuff means less control in this environment.
 
You know in Utah, if alcohol sales were privatized, someone will come in and open up an incredibly awesome store. The various microbrews are a testament to this. Even the Smith's in Mesquite puts any Utah State Liquor store to shame.

In St. George, going to the liquor store feels like a profiling experiment. There's this big brute who lords a corner and isn't shy about giving you the hairy-eye as you peruse. You see a good sum of tax dollars parked in front of these stores in the form of an undercover car, or a Charger- sitting there doing nothing while some asshat from the police department gawks at customers in civilian clothing. It's just there to remind you that you willingly participating in an indulgence that the state does not like.

Their big thing here is trying to catch people buying liquor when they've already drank, regardless if they drove there or not. The cop will stand there and literally bag your bottles. I saw a guy that was acting completely normal (may have exhibited characteristics aesthetically that he had been drinking), get his order snatched, told to leave, and subsequently followed by Mr. Liquor Store Security. If privatization happens, this stuff means less control in this environment.
Most LQs in the salt lake valley have pretty good selection.
 
If you're a real Statist and a Progressive Democrat, you might think it's the government's business to regulate soda pop, too. Think of the obesity and diabetes we all have to pay for outta the State purse. . . uhh. . . the collective asset pool.

Since I don't like any more government than is needed to keep the British outta Utah, I'm just pissed that Rio Tinto can own mines in Utah, and consider the government good for nothing at all.

State of Utah should not be allowed to run any business, or make any law about what people wanna eat, drink, smoke, or swim in.

That's why I directed the question at GF, and not you. ;)
 
If you're a real Statist and a Progressive Democrat, you might think it's the government's business to regulate soda pop, too. Think of the obesity and diabetes we all have to pay for outta the State purse. . . uhh. . . the collective asset pool.

Since I don't like any more government than is needed to keep the British outta Utah, I'm just pissed that Rio Tinto can own mines in Utah, and consider the government good for nothing at all.

State of Utah should not be allowed to run any business, or make any law about what people wanna eat, drink, smoke, or swim in.

If you want to go that route...

Many conservatives who dominate this state's politics don't give a rats *** for human rights or individual freedoms, including religious freedom ironically (ban teh Muzlems!). They see their political battles as good vs. evil, and their self righteous stance as the good that needs to stamp out the evil.

I'm certain you agree with this even if I was only going on your posts in this thread alone. The reason I bring it up here is because you're constantly on a tirade against the progressive liberals and never go after the regressive conservatives. You're playing into the divisive game.
 
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