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So, you've all heard my whining about how Utah needs to tank again to build around Exum. Let's go the other direction. Let's try to contend now. Let's build the best team you can as fast as you can. Here is what I do:

Trade Favors and Burks to Cleveland for Love. Why? Love wants back out west. Cleveland gets Favors, who is an All Star next to LeBron, can play center, and is an amazing defender and Burks is a talented young wing.

Trade #12, GS 2017 pick and Burke to Atl for Teague. Why? Utah gets lucky and Atl falls in love with a player at 12.

Sign Batum to a 2 year, 20 million per year deal.

This is what we look like:

PG - Teague (30 mins) - Exum (15 mins) - Mack (10 mins)
SG - Gordon Hayward (10 mins) - Exum (15 mins) - Hood (12 mins)
SF - Batum (25 mins) - Hayward (20 mins) - Hood (5 mins)
PF - Love (30 mins) - Lyles (20 mins)
C - Gobert (30 mins) - Lyles (5 mins) - Withey (15 mins)

We have vets, we have a star in Love, we have length everywhere, passing, defense, and shooting.

We have a payroll of 84 million next year.

A payroll of 59 million in 2017 when the cap is 108 million.

And in 2018, we have a payroll of 24 million.

So, we get good fast, but we retain cap space to keep whoever pans out of all this. We can keep our young players, but win now. Then as Batum's contract ends, we bring him back or bring in someone else or let Hood grow into the roll.

When Teague leaves next summer, we let Exum move into the starting roll.

When Love leaves, let Lyles move in.
 
When I think of a star I don't think of a guy I don't really know anything about and never hear other basketball fans talk about.
 
Love is a better shooter. He is a better passer. He is a better rebounder. Love has better win shares. He has better VORP than Favors.

Love is better than Favors.

Love would open the floor up for our good pick and roll players, such as Hood and Hayward.

NOW, Cleveland would never trade Love for Favors, because Love is just better. But, it's my dream so I let it go.
 
green said:
Love is a better shooter. He is a better passer. He is a better rebounder. Love has better win shares. He has better VORP than Favors.

Love is better than Favors.

Love would open the floor up for our good pick and roll players, such as Hood and Hayward.

NOW, Cleveland would never trade Love for Favors, because Love is just better. But, it's my dream so I let it go.
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Love is not a star as he is currently in the process of so ably demonstrating.
 
So we will become contenders with KLove(benched for Channing Frye in the clutch and hasn't played a single minute in the last two conference finals 4th quarters), Jeff Teague - benched for Dennis ****ing Schroeder in the clutch in Atlanta. Oh and we are going to bench one of the best young offensive creators on the wing in Hood and give him 17 minutes a game? Yeah, right...
 
green said:
So, you've all heard my whining about how Utah needs to tank again to build around Exum. Let's go the other direction. Let's try to contend now. Let's build the best team you can as fast as you can. Here is what I do:

Trade Favors and Burks to Cleveland for Love. Why? Love wants back out west. Cleveland gets Favors, who is an All Star next to LeBron, can play center, and is an amazing defender and Burks is a talented young wing.

Trade #12, GS 2017 pick and Burke to Atl for Teague. Why? Utah gets lucky and Atl falls in love with a player at 12.

Sign Batum to a 2 year, 20 million per year deal.

This is what we look like:

PG - Teague (30 mins) - Exum (15 mins) - Mack (10 mins)
SG - Gordon Hayward (10 mins) - Exum (15 mins) - Hood (12 mins)
SF - Batum (25 mins) - Hayward (20 mins) - Hood (5 mins)
PF - Love (30 mins) - Lyles (20 mins)
C - Gobert (30 mins) - Lyles (5 mins) - Withey (15 mins)

We have vets, we have a star in Love, we have length everywhere, passing, defense, and shooting.

We have a payroll of 84 million next year.

A payroll of 59 million in 2017 when the cap is 108 million.

And in 2018, we have a payroll of 24 million.

So, we get good fast, but we retain cap space to keep whoever pans out of all this. We can keep our young players, but win now. Then as Batum's contract ends, we bring him back or bring in someone else or let Hood grow into the roll.

When Teague leaves next summer, we let Exum move into the starting roll.

When Love leaves, let Lyles move in.
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Green, I usually agree with your posts but this post is a pretty big whiff bruh. It just makes no sense to me man. Love is not the answer. He could not Even get the t wolves to the playoffs one time in the 7ish years in Minny. And he's a massive liability defensively. Do you really think that team does anything more then maybe win one playoffs game?


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green said:
Love is a better shooter. He is a better passer. He is a better rebounder. Love has better win shares. He has better VORP than Favors.

Love is better than Favors.

Love would open the floor up for our good pick and roll players, such as Hood and Hayward.

NOW, Cleveland would never trade Love for Favors, because Love is just better. But, it's my dream so I let it go.
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Next your gonna say Love is a better defender than Favors.


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Hell no to Love. He's overrated, three years older and twice as expensive. Over the past two seasons, both average about 16 points per game, Love has the edge in 3 point shooting, and a slight edge in rebounds and assists, while Derrick is a FAR superior defender with the edge on steals and blocks (by a WIDE margin.) Derrick Favors is more physical and more versatile. I'd pass on that one.
 
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I like the general philosophy of what green is saying here but love is not good enough and batum would not come that cheap.

Batum would probably have to be 2 years 30 million.
Make the same trade to the clippers (they would never do it but whatever) for griffin.

Exum
Hayward
Batum
Griffin
Gobert

Hood plays the 2 and the 3 and still gets lots of minutes.

I like it.
 
Lol. Love doesn't even play defense. He was the definition of a 'good stats, bad team' guy. Talented, no doubt. But you don't win running your offense through Love.
 
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