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"Running Your Car on Gas Vapor - Stop Getting Screwed at The Pump"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58IkmPK6ikc

This white vapor comes from separating the Atoms in gasoline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_95v-Ap5esI

https://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?p=1310

the truth about gas and vapor part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqKEQLBg6a8

the truth about gas and vapor part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDMDCT67xBM

https://www.google.es/webhp?sourcei...pv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=cars+running+on+vaporized+gas
https://www.google.es/webhp?sourcei...UTF-8#q=cars+running+on+vaporized+gas+youtube


https://electrifyingtimes.com/gasolinevapor.html
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RUNNING ON VAPOR
By Bruce Meland,
Editor and Publisher of Electrifying Times

It is an often a misconception that most vehicles burn gasoline vapors in their internal combustion engines. The fact of the matter is, gasoline powered vehicles burn finely divided particles or droplets that are sprayed from the carburetor or fuel injectors, into the engine cylinders.

This is a very wasteful process of converting gasoline or diesel to energy. Maybe 20-30 % efficiency at most. It has been known and demonstrated for 60 or more years that burning gasoline vapors will give easily 5 times the mpg and near zero emissions. Actually if the vapors are heated to the necessary temperature of 450 degrees F, the gasoline vapors are actually fractionalized by catalytic cracking and converted to smaller light molecular hydrocarbons, methane and methanol. In my travels around the world I have been in contact with some very informed inventors, relatives or associates of inventors who have known of many high mileage low emission vapor carburetors. I am sure many of you have heard of the Pogue, Covey, and Fish high mileage carburetors.
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https://truedemocracyparty.net/2011/09/200-mpg-pogue-carburetor/
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Updated on Monday, May 24, 2010 in Technical Innovations
the 200-mpg carburetor
Pogue Carburetor
Don Garlits, a drag racing legend, poses Aug. 2, 2002, with a 125-miles-per-gallon Pogue Carburetor at Don Garlits Museum of Drag Racing, Ocala, Florida.”
photo by Bruce Ackerman, Star Banner, 2002
In Dec. 12, 1936 Canadian Automotive Magazine states that the standard carburetor gets about 25 mpg at only 9% efficiency. Therefore the Pogue carburetor is 72% efficient overall at 200 mpg.
“A carburetor that would allow a car to travel 200 miles on a gallon of gas caused oil stocks to crash when it was announced by its Canadian inventor Charles Nelson Pogue in the 1930s. But the carburetor was never produced in enough volume, and mysteriously, Pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the motor industry. Ever since, suspicion has lingered that oil companies colluded to bury Pogue’s invention.”
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https://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/04/pogue_carburetor_gasoline_vapo.html
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There is a website and a CD that have 604 carburetor patents that have been assigned to various companies and never developed. There were 53 inventors who wouldn't sell out. Each of them had fatal "accidents" two to three weeks after refusing to sell their patent(s). I knew four of these inventors personally. The website is https://www.fuelvapors.com/.

https://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=941
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In 1982; in Denver, Col.; I designed and built an ugly but functional vapor carb. for my 1967 Dodge Coronet. It used exhaust heat to assist in the vaporizing of the gasoline- which was sprayed into the heat exchanger at the bottom of the device- and the vapor rose through a maze of approx. 25 feet folded back and forth on itself at which it exited into a 2 1/2? ID hose (radiator hose) which I ran to an adapter on top of my existing carb which I used to start the 318 cubic inch engine. I achieved 87 miles per gallon. The machine shop that I had help me make the contraption told me that they had helped an earlier inventor with a very NICE carb. to adapt it to his auto – with approximately similar results. (Mine only ran me about 500totalw/allthejunkyouhavetoassembletogetittowork.)Theywarnedmenottomakeittoopublic,becausetheotherinventorgotthenoticeofsomeoilpeoplefromTexaswhocameupandgavehimanoffertoassumehisinvention.Herefused.Hishomeandworkshopburneddown2dayslater!Hemovedtopartsunknown.Ijustthoughtyoumightfinditinterestingtohearfromsomeonewhohasdonethisbefore.Mypointinthewholethingwas;“IfIcouldachieve80+mpgwithatotalof500 invested- on a ’67 Dodge Coronet 318 V8; what could Chrysler do with the millions they have to invest?”

“In 1933 Charles Nelson Pogue made headlines when he drove a 1932 Ford V8, 200 miles on a gallon of gas during a demonstration conducted by The Ford Motor Company in Winnipeg, Manitoba using his super-carb system.” The Pogue Carb went into production and was sold openly. [317 were sold?] In the opening months of 1936, stock exchange offices and brokers were swamped with orders to dump all oil stock immediately. His invention caused such shock waves through the stock market, that the US and Canadian governments both stepped in and [successfully] applied pressure to stifle him.
“he saw Mr. Pogue in the midst of a bunch of oil company big wigs. He named the wigs, but I forget the names. They were heads of Texaco, Shell, Esso, etc. Some of them had red faces, and Mr. Pogue looked like a trapped rabbit.”
Pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the motor industry.
[ see photo of Don Garlits with Pogue carb. on "Super Carburetors Hist." page ]
see Charles Pogue Carb.

Ron Brandt is the inventor of the perm-mag motor.
When he was a young man, he invented a 90-mpg carburetor. He was paid a visit by a man from Standard Oil, another man, and two men wearing US Marshal uniforms. They told him that if he ever made another carburetor, they would kill him, his wife, and two young children. He was quickly persuaded that his life wasn’t worth a “damn” carburetor. He happened to think to memorize the badge numbers of the two US Marshals and so had an attorney in Washington, DC check with the US Marshal’s office. They had no record of the two badge numbers.

Tom Ogle, a 24 year old mechanic drove 200 miles in a 1970 351 ci. Ford on 2 gallons of gas. Other mechanics and engineers checked for hidden tanks, none were found. Reporters and a camera crew went with him 100 miles out and back; 200 miles 2 gallons. He claimed from the beginning that he did not know exactly how the system worked, just that it did and he proved it time and again. He had hoped other engineers would help to explain what he was doing. I have seen three different news articles on him and reprinted here for your understanding. One states he turned down $ 25 million from backers that would keep it off the market. He had a hard time getting backers that had integrity. Everybody wanted controlling interest and he knew it was going on the back shelf. Tom resisted and tried to get it on the market. Later he was shot and survived, only four months later he did die of an overdose of darvon and alcohol with no suicide note. Nobody explained what became of his idea. A patent was issued Dec. 11, 1979 # 4,177,779. Four months after his death.
see Tom Ogle Carb.
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Start watching this at the 2:00 time mark.

Diesels, Gaswagons & Zyklon-B Part 3 of 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ct05io8F9A


If a gas engine will run on smoke, its running on gas fumes doesn't seem that improbable. I think engineers could work out all the bugs.
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If this turns out to be true, the word should be spread far and wide.
 
LOL, I remember hearing about the 100+mpg stuff back in the 80s.

For all the people over the several decades that this BS has been flowing you'd think someone would be rocking this tech by now. And I know for certain, if I see that my buddy is getting 200MPG I'm gonna want in on that. Yet, here we are, not getting 200mpg.

Why, OP, why?

(for the record, OP, I'm not trying to have a serious conversation with you. I'm laughing at you. I think it's hilarious you start with fake moon landings and jump right into the 1000mpg stuff. I can't wait to hear about building 7, the pyramids, Pearl Harbor attacks, AIDS, etc.)
 
Gameface said:
LOL, I remember hearing about the 100+mpg stuff back in the 80s.

For all the people over the several decades that this BS has been flowing you'd think someone would be rocking this tech by now. And I know for certain, if I see that my buddy is getting 200MPG I'm gonna want in on that. Yet, here we are, not getting 200mpg.

Why, OP, why?

(for the record, OP, I'm not trying to have a serious conversation with you. I'm laughing at you. I think it's hilarious you start with fake moon landings and jump right into the 1000mpg stuff. I can't wait to hear about building 7, the pyramids, Pearl Harbor attacks, AIDS, etc.)
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You forgot Area 51
 
Gameface said:
LOL, I remember hearing about the 100+mpg stuff back in the 80s.

For all the people over the several decades that this BS has been flowing you'd think someone would be rocking this tech by now. And I know for certain, if I see that my buddy is getting 200MPG I'm gonna want in on that. Yet, here we are, not getting 200mpg.

Why, OP, why?

(for the record, OP, I'm not trying to have a serious conversation with you. I'm laughing at you. I think it's hilarious you start with fake moon landings and jump right into the 1000mpg stuff. I can't wait to hear about building 7, the pyramids, Pearl Harbor attacks, AIDS, etc.)
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You can have a 100 mpg car if you really want one. I think you just want a big comfortable car with ac, airbags, 5 seats, that doesn't have to charge, and is capable of highway speeds. You say you would want one if your neighbor had one. I don't believe you. :)
 
♪alt13 said:
You can have a 100 mpg car if you really want one. I think you just want a big comfortable car with ac, airbags, 5 seats, that doesn't have to charge, and is capable of highway speeds. You say you would want one if your neighbor had one. I don't believe you. :)
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Your totally right. I need my AC.

I want one of the magical devices the OP is talking about. The stuff the government and big oil are keeping a secret from us.
 
And Tara Reid's acting

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Gameface said:
LOL, I remember hearing about the 100+mpg stuff back in the 80s.

For all the people over the several decades that this BS has been flowing you'd think someone would be rocking this tech by now. And I know for certain, if I see that my buddy is getting 200MPG I'm gonna want in on that. Yet, here we are, not getting 200mpg.

Why, OP, why?

(for the record, OP, I'm not trying to have a serious conversation with you. I'm laughing at you. I think it's hilarious you start with fake moon landings and jump right into the 1000mpg stuff. I can't wait to hear about building 7, the pyramids, Pearl Harbor attacks, AIDS, etc.)
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I am sorry [MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION] if this gets a little technical. I understand you kids do not work on vehicles anymore.

It is easy to explain with physics. The refinery industry can crack oil into smaller strands. They no longer only distill the crude. More hydrogen per carbon means more energy expenditure upon combustion. There is a reason natural gas vehicles produce more horse power an more mpg per gallon of gasoline equivalent.

Natural gas is not the optimal carbon chain. Something about being to short an not quite enough energy in the fewer carbon carbon bonds. In addition the higher carbon chains an rings can also volatilize inside the intake manifold. That is what it is there for.

OP is well uninformed. It is not the carbuerator that was the secret it was the manifold an that is why tom Ogle could not figure it out. See, when he rebuilt his engine he assumed it was the carbuerator cause no real explanation how the Pistons or valve train could be the cause. He did not port an polish or anything special, only stock parts.

Back to petro. Tom Ogle lived near a refinery that was the first in the nation to crack medium to shorter carbon chain fuels from waxy crude. He happened to have the rare exact combination of the right fuel with the right intake manifold. His manifold for some reason acted two-chambered. A medium heat zone followed by high but quick heat as to not explode the fuel upon back exhaust from the intake valves.

When the integrated oil majors found out there refineries would only need to produce 1/4 there product they took care of Mr Ogle an his green machine.
 
Boris said:
I am sorry @Gameface if this gets a little technical. I understand you kids do not work on vehicles anymore.

It is easy to explain with physics. The refinery industry can crack oil into smaller strands. They no longer only distill the crude. More hydrogen per carbon means more energy expenditure upon combustion. There is a reason natural gas vehicles produce more horse power an more mpg per gallon of gasoline equivalent.

Natural gas is not the optimal carbon chain. Something about being to short an not quite enough energy in the fewer carbon carbon bonds. In addition the higher carbon chains an rings can also volatilize inside the intake manifold. That is what it is there for.

OP is well uninformed. It is not the carbuerator that was the secret it was the manifold an that is why tom Ogle could not figure it out. See, when he rebuilt his engine he assumed it was the carbuerator cause no real explanation how the Pistons or valve train could be the cause. He did not port an polish or anything special, only stock parts.

Back to petro. Tom Ogle lived near a refinery that was the first in the nation to crack medium to shorter carbon chain fuels from waxy crude. He happened to have the rare exact combination of the right fuel with the right intake manifold. His manifold for some reason acted two-chambered. A medium heat zone followed by high but quick heat as to not explode the fuel upon back exhaust from the intake valves.

When the integrated oil majors found out there refineries would only need to produce 1/4 there product they took care of Mr Ogle an his green machine.
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umhumm
 
I used to have an old jeep with a 360 AMC V8. It got around 12 highway. I let someone borrow it. They didn't put oil in it and screwed my engine up. I got another 360 on Ksl. The only difference was that the intake manifold was for a 4 barrel carb. I tried to swap the intake manifolds but mine seemed to be a little warped and I could not get it to seat right. I didn't have money for a new carb so I decided to buy an adapter in the mean time. So it was a 2 barrel carb/adapter/and a taller intake manifold. I took it to a mechanic to tune the carb because I didn't really trust myself to get it right. After that I had noticeably more power and got 25 mpg until I sold it. I didn't believe it at first but each time I filled it up I was getting right around 25. I started to think that there was something wrong with my odometer. I filled it up and went to Wendover. Odometer was fine and sure enough I got 25 mpg. It still kinda blows my mind.
 
My bad. I confused Tom Ogle with another cause his vaporization system was after the carbs but before the manifold. I think his used no carbuerator at all.

I have experimented with manifold leaks trying to replicate the two chamber heat phenomenon. They use this principal in heavy industry. First compartment volatilizes the waste an the second burns it off. My system an that of a guy murdered by big oil uses a 3rd compartment system. 1 volatilizes, 2 puts the gases quickly at high heat, 3 is the piston chambers where high pressure from the hot gasses causes rapid detonation and thus better energy transfer into the drive train.

I took a 1974 Jeep Cherokee 5.9L from about 12 mpg to over 16 by drilling various holes an cracks in the upper manifold chambers to lower the volatilizing temperature there. I had to put cardboard in front of the radiator so the engine would run hot for the back half an run the carb very rich to compensate for the air leaking into the manifold.

I found out how to stress fracture the manifolds in a process I own the patent for to this day. That took me from 16 to over 23 mpg. I doubled the efficiency with a few holes or cracks by altering the volatilizing process. My theory was that less oxidation and nitrogenation of the fuel happens when temp is not ramped up quickly in the presence of oxygen. You know oxygen comes through the carbuerator as well.

Key is 1st chamber does not oxidize/nitrogenate and the back chamber has little time to as the air fuel mixture is rapidly sucked in by the downward pulling pistons and energy is locked in as intake valves shut.

My engines were much less prone to blowing up manifolds like you see on funny car racing. I never got pre ignition fire in the manifolds.
 
♪alt13 said:
I used to have an old jeep with a 360 AMC V8. It got around 12 highway. I let someone borrow it. They didn't put oil in it and screwed my engine up. I got another 360 on Ksl. The only difference was that the intake manifold was for a 4 barrel carb. I tried to swap the intake manifolds but mine seemed to be a little warped and I could not get it to seat right. I didn't have money for a new carb so I decided to buy an adapter in the mean time. So it was a 2 barrel carb/adapter/and a taller intake manifold. I took it to a mechanic to tune the carb because I didn't really trust myself to get it right. After that I had noticeably more power and got 25 mpg until I sold it. I didn't believe it at first but each time I filled it up I was getting right around 25. I started to think that there was something wrong with my odometer. I filled it up and went to Wendover. Odometer was fine and sure enough I got 25 mpg. It still kinda blows my mind.
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You posted this as I was writing about my 360 5.9L. How cool!

Taller intake manifolds allowed you to burn leaner and take more time for the vapors to volatize.
 
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