Matt Harpring Trade Exception

[David Stern]

Holy hell, and I thought I got bored at work.

 

[David Stern]

Why would the Grizz trade the 2nd overall pick who has a ton of upside (yes, I know he was demoted and how crappy he was but he still has a ton of upside) for an exception and essentially nothing but salary relief? Delusional.

See: Pau Gasol trade.

 

[NotDeadYet]

KoC supposedly has been nosing round for a b/u (as in cheap, 'serviceable') PF.
1. With Okur doubtful to start the Jazz season full bore, Jefferson seems like our C, leaving Millsap w/o a b/u unless it's AK. IMO, it's very risky to give AK much PT at PF with his small frame and injury history.
2. Vet PF Troy Murphy was just added to NJ's roster via trade.
3. Favors was drafted very high by NJ this year so is their future; surely he will get decent PT.
4. Brook Lopez and Petro are likely set at C, although Favors might see some action here.
5. Kris Humphries isn't likely to see the court much in NJ and probably could be had, and he's only $3.2 mil. Yeah, we could get a rookie FA a little cheaper on a 1 year deal, but it's unlikely Sloan would play him.
At least he has some actual game experience and is big on hustle stats; he can be a rebounding maniac off the bench...

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

See: Pau Gasol trade.

Yeah they didn't get Marc Gasol and a couple 1st rounders back or anything.

 

[homeytennis]

Real GM indicates that the Rockets may not be done yet in the trading business. Courtney Lee is on a rookie K so he might be someone the Jazz could pick up along with a Rocket PF. They have a lot of them now.

 

[Stifle Tower]

No way we add more salary to the books.

I'm of that opinion, too. Just because the Jazz have the exception doesn't mean they'll use it. I doubt any teams will be looking to just dump a good player by Dec. 22nd. My opinion last season was that KOC (undoubtedly under pressure from Greg) pulled the trigger way too quickly on the Harpring salary dump. The Jazz already used the Boozer exception to get a player. They won't use the Harpring exception to add more 2x whatever the salary is to their books. The only deal they might be tempted to make is if they can trade AK in an uneven deal - i.e. get a starter for $10M or so, and $5.6M in expirings or players they can waive. Under the 110% rule, I beleive they'd only have to take back $15.6M in salaries in a deal. So Greg could potentially save $3M that way in salary/luxury tax.

 

[Hitman]

Just because the Jazz have the exception doesn't mean they'll use it.

I agree - the whole point of the Maynor+Harpring trade was to dump salary and avoid paying as much tax as possible. By using the exception now, they would have just deferred the tax bill for a year. Hence the clause in my original post that we ignore the financial implications of using the exception.

I doubt any teams will be looking to just dump a good player by Dec. 22nd.

This I disagree with - it seems to me that every season there is at least one team who has buyer's remorse in winter as a result of a FA signing over summer.

 

[DutchJazzer]

gasol or gortat please.

rather have gasol but gortat would be fine

 

[gregbroncs]

Why would the Grizz trade the 2nd overall pick who has a ton of upside (yes, I know he was demoted and how crappy he was but he still has a ton of upside) for an exception and essentially nothing but salary relief? Delusional.

Hence the probably unrealistic before the statement.

 

[DWill_Gr8tness]

I want to publicly thank you for not making this one of those vapid Gaines threads.

So thank you.

agreed

 

[freakazoid]

Anybody ever heard of this Humphries guy?

Don't know his background, but we should gamble on him.

Heard he was on the verge of breaking out. Jazz need to get in on that.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Hence the probably unrealistic before the statement.

True.