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Game Thread May 23, 2021 07:30PM MT: Jazz vs. Grizzlies - Game 1

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So we drafted him to be third string but he ended up fourth string? Not sure what point you’re trying to make here?

Honestly, Ingles and Bogey are a bit redundant. We should have turned one of them into the perimeter defender we needed.

Or you know, picked up Torrey Craig for free. I can’t fathom who thought it’d be a good idea to spend a pick on Matt Thomas. The move made no sense.
Obviously I was saying we drafted him to be third string center (which is stupid) not 4th or 5th like you insinuated.
I doubt we even pick up ersan if Dok never gets hurt.
Also probably drafted Dok to be the 2nd string center when favors leaves.

Btw I thought and still think it was a stupid pick. Just pointing out that the jazz weren't like hey let's use our 1st round pick on a 4th or 5th string center like you seemed to be trying to make it sound.

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The overconfidence on this site is astounding. We are arguably without our best player. Did we think the Grizz were just gonna bow down to the almighty Jazz? If I’m the Grizz, I’m going for the throat next game. Same ****. Be physical as hell with us. Push us around. Get in our heads. All the pressure’s on us and they know that and we know that. We’re soft.
 
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The overconfidence on this site is astounding. We are arguably without our best player. Did we think the Grizz were just gonna bow down to the almighty Jazz? If I’m the Grizz, I’m going for the throat next game. Same ****. Be physical as hell with us. Push us around. Get in our heads. All the pressure’s on us and they know and we know that.
Well, I mean we had our 2nd worst shooting game of the entire season and still had a very good chance to win.

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Imagine if Jazz down 0-1 to Warriors.

Feeling better?


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No.
 
Well, I mean we had our 2nd worst shooting game of the entire season and still had a very good chance to win.

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But if you're the Grizz you're paying with House money. Game 2 is a must win for us. And now we need to steal one from their home court which will be a difficult task, especially if Mitchell isn't playing or isn't near 100 percent.
 
Tell me how this is a technical:

and this is not:


Tell me how this is NOT a flagrant:

and Bojan contact was..
Same with Rudy loose ball foul. JV did the same at least 2 times with no call.

I have not seen any of the post game interviews, but somebody has to be vocal about it. Let the fines come, Jazz as an organization is just too passive with NBA BS.

We obviously lost because we've played like ****, we have to own that and improve. We could have won this game and can will this series even with this type of officiating, but next round we need it to be fair, so it's time to complain a bit.
 
I thought we signed Bogey to be the stretch 4 and Ingles was going to be the point small forward? Wasn't the whole point of ridding ourself of Favors and signing Bogey to provide more space and shooting because Ingles wasn't enough?
I mean the first choice was Mirotic, a true stretch 4. Bogey is really a 3. Bogey was the backup plan because he wasn’t as good a fit positionally.
 
That's clearly not what the facts say. This is at least the 4th time you've brought this up. It seems pretty juvenile to keep bringing up how, "wrong I was on draft night" especially when I've already admitted such. It honestly is getting a bit tiresome to sift through game threads with you regurgitating the same "I told you so" stuff from draft night. Especially during a frustrating game like last night.

At the end of the day, we're all fans and want to see our team succeed. Right? Like I'll happily admit that we should've drafted Bane and see us win the chip than be right about the drafting of Doka and see us lose in the first round.


Then take it up with those posters or just chalk it up to being on a message board. But acting juvenile about this by continuously bringing up draft night is just silly. It tells me that you're not used to being correct and are desperate for attention. Prove me wrong by letting it go from here on out.

Have you applied to work for the Jazz? Perhaps you should? Maybe if they had done what you wanted on draft night we'd be in a better position right now?
I haven’t applied no... lol. I have to make a lot more than an entry level nba guy to support my family. Also one small voice does not change a decision like that.

I’ll drop it on this one... I want is to win too... that is why when I see us making mistakes (even if they are small) I get frustrated. My opinion on the front office is they tend to get the big things mostly right... but they’ve been sloppy on the edges at times and are too conservative imo. I think they are good but not the best. I have no problem criticizing them when I think they are wrong and giving them a pat on the back when they are right... I certainly don’t want them to be wrong... I’d rather eat crow.
 
Tell me how this is a technical:

and this is not:


Tell me how this is NOT a flagrant:

and Bojan contact was..
Same with Rudy loose ball foul. JV did the same at least 2 times with no call.

I have not seen any of the post game interviews, but somebody has to be vocal about it. Let the fines come, Jazz as an organization is just too passive with NBA BS.

We obviously lost because we've played like ****, we have to own that and improve. We could have won this game and can will this series even with this type of officiating, but next round we need it to be fair, so it's time to complain a bit.

This is where Quin has to engage in the Phil Jackson psychological warfare... but I think he thinks he’s above that. It’s annoying but it works. A mention of how Brooks is able to murder people but Mike is reffed like a rookie and getting called for hand checks sometimes becomes a narrative and it’s starts to influence the refs. Refs can absolutely control a game and influencing officials has a material effect on winning.. its stupid but sometimes I guess you have to play some stupid games.
 
But if you're the Grizz you're paying with House money. Game 2 is a must win for us. And now we need to steal one from their home court which will be a difficult task, especially if Mitchell isn't playing or isn't near 100 percent.
Agreed.
Having agreed though, I'm extremely confident we win this series and think we will win the next 4 in a row.

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This is where Quin has to engage in the Phil Jackson psychological warfare... but I think he thinks he’s above that. It’s annoying but it works. A mention of how Brooks is able to murder people but Mike is reffed like a rookie and getting called for hand checks sometimes becomes a narrative and it’s starts to influence the refs. Refs can absolutely control a game and influencing officials has a material effect on winning.. its stupid but sometimes I guess you have to play some stupid games.
Unfortunately in today's league whining is effective. JV screamed like a bitch in ALL rebounds that he had been boxed out and his offensive possessions. At least in one of them he got the whistle. It was Rudy's third and it changed the outcome of the game.
 
REALLY rough night for Clarkson: 5/16, 0/8 from 3 and 4 turnovers.
Clarkson was affected by the days off more then most it appears. My bet is if Mitchell plays everyone's efficiency goes up. This blindsiding everyone about him sitting out **** sure didn't help.
 
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