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Memo traded to NJ

gregbroncs said:
Wait you would give up Al, CJ ,GS pick and Hayward while also taking on a bad contract for a 1 year rental of Howard? I don't think that would be a smart thing for this team to do. If Howard agrees to an extension I'm all for it. But not for a rental.
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Agreed here. Why would you want a year rental of any player on the Jazz?
Oh yeah, so that say they win a title with him and then he bolts.
Good excuse to say the only reason the Jazz had a title was Howard.
For one thing, the Jazz don't need another egotistical star boy.
Hasn't anyone learned anything from the D-Will fiasco?

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gregbroncs said:
Wait you would give up Al, CJ ,GS pick and Hayward while also taking on a bad contract for a 1 year rental of Howard? I don't think that would be a smart thing for this team to do. If Howard agrees to an extension I'm all for it. But not for a rental.
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margodydek said:
In a heartbeat. I'm not a fan of Al (for all we know we'd end up amnestying him after this year), CJ blows, for all we know the GS pick could end up being a 2nd round pick 3 years from now. Hayward is the only piece that would be tough to give up - as he could possibly have a bright future with the Jazz, but would I trade him for a year of Dwight? Yes.

None of those pieces are going to take us to the promised land, and I don't think Dwight could do it in one year either, but it would be hella fun to watch.
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Giving up Hayward and a possibly good pick is not worth a brief cameo of D. Howard in Salt Lake City. Besides, Utah now already has a Howard, and Superman belongs in (a) Metropolis :|.
 
margodydek said:
In a heartbeat. I'm not a fan of Al (for all we know we'd end up amnestying him after this year), CJ blows, for all we know the GS pick could end up being a 2nd round pick 3 years from now. Hayward is the only piece that would be tough to give up - as he could possibly have a bright future with the Jazz, but would I trade him for a year of Dwight? Yes.

None of those pieces are going to take us to the promised land, and I don't think Dwight could do it in one year either, but it would be hella fun to watch.
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So you admit it's not enough for a title and that he won't be back. Meanwhile you screw all our chances to improve and trade away a lot of our future for 1 non-championship run. WTF? Why would we do that? Seriously. What would be the point?
 
margodydek said:
In a heartbeat. I'm not a fan of Al (for all we know we'd end up amnestying him after this year), CJ blows, for all we know the GS pick could end up being a 2nd round pick 3 years from now. Hayward is the only piece that would be tough to give up - as he could possibly have a bright future with the Jazz, but would I trade him for a year of Dwight? Yes.
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Those are all assets we can use in building the team going forward. What you're talking about is throwing away assets just so we can see Dwight in a Jazz jersey for about half a season. That is the definition of short-sightedness.
 
gregbroncs said:
So you admit it's not enough for a title and that he won't be back. Meanwhile you screw all our chances to improve and trade away a lot of our future for 1 non-championship run. WTF? Why would we do that? Seriously. What would be the point?
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Lets go over these pieces again, and you name me one that's going to propel us to a championship or even a conference finals: Al - nope, CJ - hell nope, GS Pick (at best #8 this year) - nope, and Hayward - nope.

Personally I don't even want Al or CJ on the team. I'd move them for cap space to be honest. So the next question would be, would I trade the GS pick + Hayward for Howard and Hedo. A million times yes. Even if DH12 is only here for a year. We'd still have our core young guys (minus Hayward - who at best will turn into Manu, but more realistically will be Mike Dunleavy Jr. with a little defense) of Favors, Kanter, Burks.

So unless you're extremely high on Hayward or you think the #8-#12 pick this year or next will get us over the hump, I don't see why you wouldn't do this trade.
 
margodydek said:
Lets go over these pieces again, and you name me one that's going to propel us to a championship or even a conference finals: Al - nope, CJ - hell nope, GS Pick (at best #8 this year) - nope, and Hayward - nope.

Personally I don't even want Al or CJ on the team. I'd move them for cap space to be honest. So the next question would be, would I trade the GS pick + Hayward for Howard and Hedo. A million times yes. Even if DH12 is only here for a year. We'd still have our core young guys (minus Hayward - who at best will turn into Manu, but more realistically will be Mike Dunleavy Jr. with a little defense) of Favors, Kanter, Burks.

So unless you're extremely high on Hayward or you think the #8-#12 pick this year or next will get us over the hump, I don't see why you wouldn't do this trade.
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I think you'd have to be extremely high to give up a single asset for a short term rental like the one you describe. What is it about having Howard here for half a non-championship year that you feel would be so orgasmic?
 
With Memo gone now...is there anyone on the team capable of hitting a three pointer on a consistent basis (i.e. 30%+)?
 
akirac73 said:
With Memo gone now...is there anyone on the team capable of hitting a three pointer on a consistent basis (i.e. 30%+)?
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Miles, Harris, Hayward, Millsap, Watson, and Bell all shoot above 30%. Now is there anyone who can shoot above 40%? Probably only Hayward.
 
i cant say it was a bad move, but still sad to see Memo leave for so cheap. That pick will be something between 40-45 probably and it will have no value. I hope this trade exception will be a big asset in an upcoming big trade including Harris and Jefferson. Otherwise getting rid of 10 million dollar burden only for this year doesn't make sense at all.
 
margodydek said:
Lets go over these pieces again, and you name me one that's going to propel us to a championship or even a conference finals: Al - nope, CJ - hell nope, GS Pick (at best #8 this year) - nope, and Hayward - nope.

Personally I don't even want Al or CJ on the team. I'd move them for cap space to be honest. So the next question would be, would I trade the GS pick + Hayward for Howard and Hedo. A million times yes. Even if DH12 is only here for a year. We'd still have our core young guys (minus Hayward - who at best will turn into Manu, but more realistically will be Mike Dunleavy Jr. with a little defense) of Favors, Kanter, Burks.

So unless you're extremely high on Hayward or you think the #8-#12 pick this year or next will get us over the hump, I don't see why you wouldn't do this trade.
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We are also taking on one of the worst contracts in the NBA and he does not go away after 1/2 a year. On top of that which is almost a no go as it is. You are giving away our 2 best wings, arguably our best PF/C(though I would go with Favors) and a potential lottery pick.

That is not only too much but WAY too much for a 1 year non-championship run. You are basically trading our future to see 1 year of Howard. If Howard agreed to a 4 year extension then hell yes. Otherwise this is not even close to being a good deal for Utah.
 
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