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Mike Conley Sign-and-Trade Possibilities

Elizah Huge

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I have seen the idea of sign-and-trading Mike Conley thrown around so I wanted to make a thread to clear some things up about it.

We can most definitely sign-and-trade Conley but there are some restrictions and limitations.

- The expected luxury tax for 2021-22 is 136.6M

- Without Conley our salary’s are at 130.4M

- The luxury tax apron is 4M over the luxury tax cap

- In essence the luxury tax apron for 2021-22 is 140.6M

We can not be over the luxury tax apron after a sign-and-trade. So that obviously limits the amount of salary we could take back in a deal which would be 10.2M at max.

Now you can’t add a player with Conley in a sign-and-trade but you can do simultaneous deals at the same time but both have to work within the cap.

For example, we could agree to trade Conley, Bogdanovic and pick 30 to the Pistons for Jerami Grant and Mason Plumlee. They would have to be two separate transactions happening simultaneously though.

As long as the Pistons have enough cap space to absorb Conley’s salary without giving back more than 10.2M. Plumlee is right at 8M so it works for both sides.

Conley would be signed and traded to the Pistons for Mason Plumlee. Then simultaneously we would then send Bogdanovic and 30 to the Pistons for Grant.

I am really thinking outside of the box here but these are some real possibilities if the front office wanted to get creative.

TL/DR

We can sign-and-trade Conley but only can take back a max of 10.2M in salary in a one for one trade.

We can sign-and-trade Conley as part of a bigger deal that would be two separate deals happening simultaneously as long as both deals work under the cap by themselves.
 
I’ve asked this in a few threads now so sorry if I am just missing something obvious, but I am having a hard time finding in the rules that the team trading a player in a sign and trade must stay below the Apron. I see the team receiving the player must, but haven’t seen that the trading team must.
 
You forgot one pretty important limitation.

Mike Conley would have to agree to a sign and trade.

Why the **** would he go to Detroit?

He already made his money - dude is 100% going to go exactly where he wants to.

It was just an example of something we could do.
 
So we have to hope someone that doesn’t currently have cap space wants Conley (if there’s cap space, they can just offer Conley) and that Conley would agree to the trade right? Failing either of those things, a sign and trade would never happen.
 
I’ve asked this in a few threads now so sorry if I am just missing something obvious, but I am having a hard time finding in the rules that the team trading a player in a sign and trade must stay below the Apron. I see the team receiving the player must, but haven’t seen that the trading team must.

I think it applies to both teams. If not it would essentially allow the Jazz to get a max contact back for Conley as long as they were willing to pay the huge luxury tax bill.
 
So we have to hope someone that doesn’t currently have cap space wants Conley (if there’s cap space, they can just offer Conley) and that Conley would agree to the trade right? Failing either of those things, a sign and trade would never happen.

Pretty much. Or if they have some cap space but not enough to sign him.

For example... If a team had 10M in cap space and Conley signs for 20M they could send us 10M in salary and get him.
 
My prediction based on DL’s and Conley’s comments yesterday is that Smith is likely not willing to go into the tax to the extent needed to re-sign Conley, and everyone involved already knows it.

The tone of both DL’s and Conley’s comments was that “we appreciated our time together, but it probably isn’t gonna happen.” At least that was my takeaway.

Conley’s comments in particular were a marked departure from just a few months ago. DL also made it sound like Conley wasn’t playing in this series because Conley didn’t want to play.

We’ll know in a little more than a month, I guess.
 
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