As I understand it, so did/will the taxpayer. I thought we got paid back on loans, with interest, and also invested in stock that increased in value?
Mitt Romney, Tax Returns, and the Idle Rich
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As I understand it, so did/will the taxpayer. I thought we got paid back on loans, with interest, and also invested in stock that increased in value?
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I agree that it wasn't as bad a deal as people make it out to be. I bet it saved tons of jobs. But, those few on top made a lot more for running a company into the ground than we did. I'm not really angry with the GM bailout. The Goldmann Sach's and company that received their bailouts from the help of the like so Henry Paulson and then gave all of their senior partners big bonuses now that should cause an uproar. And because the GOP don't believe in tough regulations they are right back to playing the same games that tore up our country.
I just negged you on some stupid post earlier about the poooor poor employees, but I would +13 this one if I could.
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Aren't you glad they came up with rep system it make poster like you feel important.
True. It also lets the World Wide Webz know that anything that pops up under your name is pure rubbish, and should be treated as such. Thanks to the rep system, everyone knows beforehand that everything you're typing is wrong and/or stupid. It's like an ignore feature without ignoring. I love it.
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Why is there such an uproar over how he's given the LDS church more money via tithing than taxes? He's not the one that set the tax rate
That's the exception to the rule and my point remains unaffected.
As to the health, etc. that's what we have OSHA, MSHA, workman's comp., etc. for. I worked for a place that I didn't consider good for my health (although it magically passed OSHA inspections). I worked on bettering my situation where many of my co-workers and friends took the easy route staying. We are living with our choices. If you choose to work in a hazardous environment then deal with the consequences.
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My question to you is this: Social Security was meant to be a safety net to help those out who need it. Then it morphed into a "retirement plan" and people began to only rely on SS in their old age. Now, you want to raise the tax on wages above $106,800. Here is the problem. I would like to believe that most people making more than that are responsible people. They put money away in IRA's, 401K plans, etc. When they hit retirement age, they will be taxed on their SS withdrawls, which means they have been taxed twice on that money. Odds are, by the time I get to that point, I will not be allowed to withdraw any of that money. So, why should I be forced to pay into a "retirement plan" where I am supposed to get ALL of that back someday, if I live long enough, when it is pretty much guaranteed that I won't ever see a dime? Basically you are asking me to pay for someone else's retirement, when I saved up and lived responsibly my whole life and they did not. I have no problem helping, but taking and giving to someone that squandered their time is not the same as helping.
And, don't give me this line about they were too poor. No one is too poor to save for their retirement. Now, you may be too poor for satellite tv, cell phones, McDonald's, etc AND a retirement, but not both. I see 25-40 patients a day that are on some form of government assistance. 90% wouldn't have to be on it if they could have some financial training. They all have smart phones. If you put that money every month towards a retirement plan you could easily retire without the aid of SS or raising taxes on me.
Heck, between welfare, cash assistance and food stamps, there are a lot of MEDICAL STUDENTS getting over $2,000 a month in assistance. You could easily save for retirement with that help from the government.
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Most businesses are small business and are NOT the exception to the rule. Most businesses are a bad month away from bankruptcy.
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This is the funniest thing of all. Here Mitt has gone above and beyond to help the poor, and he gave it to an organization that puts more of the donated $$$ into the poor's hands than any other, and he is the bad guy? Morons. If everyone donated as much as Mitt %-wise, we wouldn't need Welfare or Medicaid, and everybody's taxes would be a lot lower. Idiots.
The largest employer group in this country is middle market. Add on the government workforce and large employers and a good portion of all workers are accounted for.
Feel free to prove your claim that small business failure is actually affecting employers not paying the last couple weeks of salary and that it has any meaningful impact (and we have unemployment insurance for catastrophic situations anyway).
Opening up oil exploration and loosening drilling regulations in the US would undoubtedly generate thousands of high paying jobs which would absolutely help our economy but unless you nationalize the oil industry the US will not necessarily "get off foreign oil". If China is willing to pay more for said oil why can Exxon not sell their wares to the highest bidder?