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franklin said:
"I'm a disciple of Christ" and "follow my own conscience" don't exactly go together.

The LDS Church supports civil contracts, Thriller, and you should too. Why the hell should anyone have to get a marriage license? I don't get the gay argument since I don't believe in state sanctioned marriage in any format.



So, LG, are you saying you don't like hash? Whoa! There are a few who don't take too kindly to your kind round here.
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Perhaps I didn't explain my position all that well. I'm realistically fine with whatever stance the LDS church chooses. However, what bugs me is when leaders circulate letters instructing them to be read at conferences/meetings encouraging members to donate time and money for a political cause. If a state is so morally deprived/enriched that they vote a certain way, then let it be. They have the agency to do so. I don't feel like the LDS church should interfere with politics.

Individual members can and should be active in politics. They may even unite and create support groups. That's what makes America so great.

But what I don't necessarily agree with is the church officially sending newsletters/instructions for congregations to do certain things. I heard this happened in California. Did it not?
 
Just to clarify, I don't necessarily even support gay marriage.

But if x state votes x, then they should have the right to face the x consequences. If the state/country wants to go to hell (both physically and spiritually) with whatever decisions they vote on, let it be. The Christianity will survive somewhere. And the "righteous" will be rewarded either in this life or the next. Right?
 
The Thriller said:
But what I don't necessarily agree with is the church officially sending newsletters/instructions for congregations to do certain things. I heard this happened in California. Did it not?
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Reportedly this letter from the First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to Church leaders in California was read to all congregations on June 29th, 2008. As I don't attend church meetings I can't verify one way or the other if it is true.

Preserving Traditional Marriage and Strengthening Families

In March 2000 California voters overwhelmingly approved a state law providing that “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.” The California Supreme Court recently reversed this vote of the people. On November 4, 2 008, Californians will vote on a proposed amendment to the California state constitution that will now restore the March 2000 definition of marriage approved by the voters.

The Church’s teachings and position on this moral issue are unequivocal. Marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God, and the formation of families is central to the Creator’s plan for His children. Children are entitled to be born within this bond of marriage.

A broad-based coalition of churches and other organizations placed the proposed amendment on the ballot. The Church will participate with this coalition in seeking its passage. Local Church leaders will provide information about how you may become involved in this important cause.

We ask that you do all you can to support the proposed constitutional amendment by donating of your means and time to assure that marriage in California is legally defined as being between a man and a woman. Our best efforts are required to preserve the sacred institution of marriage.
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We ask that you do all you can to support the proposed constitutional amendment by donating of your means and time to assure that marriage in California is legally defined as being between a man and a woman. Our best efforts are required to preserve the sacred institution of marriage.
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This is what bothers me.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Will the prop 8 crap never die? This has been hashed, re-hashed, hashed again, re-re-hashed and then hashed some more.
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You're like a german... going off about the Holocaust... "we killed all those jews 50 years ago... does it still need to be brought up? sheesh, give it a rest already"

You just don't want to hear it anymore because it's embarrassing.
 
Jean-Luc said:
You're like a german... going off about the Holocaust... "we killed all those jews 50 years ago... does it still need to be brought up? sheesh, give it a rest already"

You just don't want to hear it anymore because it's embarrassing.
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OK if you stop assuming you will stop making an *** of yourself. Ok probably not based on your other posts, but it will get you a lot closer.

I have no issues at all with who marries who. Marry your goat for all I care.

And to compare a proposition arguing about whether a couple of guys get to have a marriage license to the holocaust is a travesty of epic proportions. You seriously equate the 2? You really think rehashing the gay marriage debacle in California is completely equal to teaching and remembering the holocaust?

Wow I guess marrying your life-partner in California is a pretty big deal to you. Dude just go to hawaii.
 
There is a very specific Mormon diction and I don't know how these people develop it and it weirds me out every time I hear someone talk like this. Do they teach people to talk like this in a secret temple ritual or something
 
Jean-Luc said:
You're like a german... going off about the Holocaust... "we killed all those jews 50 years ago... does it still need to be brought up? sheesh, give it a rest already"
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this is a standard american opinion actually, germans have a little more perspective and wherewithal
 
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