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Musings on this upcoming draft

cctrackstar

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Man, I am looking at all of the prospects of this years draft, and it sure looks like the worst draft in NBA history. (Bear in mind that I don't know much about NBA history, but this year isn't looking good at all.)

With the upcoming lockout (yes there is going to be one, unless you really thing that the players are going to go for a 30% reduction in pay) a lot of the good players have opted to play another year in college rather than have months of uncertainty before finally playing. Because of this, many players that would be later first rounders are moving up into the lottery. Also, there is a girth of international players that are in the lottery this year, which is okaaay, but there are problems with this a well.

The US players that are moving up into the lottery are often undersized for their position. Just look at top 3 pick Derrick Williams. Some sites have shown him being a number one pick. This for a 6'8 power forward. (Paul Millsap is listed as 6'8 and is widely considered to be horribly undersized for a power forward.) Now Williams may be wonderfully talented, but really, a number 1-3 pick for an undersized 4? See also Marcus Morris, top ten pick. 6'9, and light as a feather. I understand he is NBA ready as far as his game goes, but still undersized and underweight. top ten. Really?

As far as international players go, look at Jan Vesley, a 6'11 -<(SF)>-
Really? Small Forward? set to go top 6. Or Bismack Biyombo (whom I kinda like) at 6'9 (huge wingspan on that one) also top 6.

These type of players with odd dimensions, undersized, underweight are the players you take a chance on late first round early second, not top ten. Why is this a problem? Simply that they will get paid like NBA ready NBA proportional lottery picks (around five million for the top 3) when they should be getting between 2 and 3 mil. So the Jazz draft at 6 and 12 and pay around 6 mil total when the players they get should be earning no more than 3 to 4 mil.

I wish that the NBA could just skip the first six picks and start at seven as far as money is concerned. Of course this would never happen because who knows which players will make it and who won't. (See Wes Matthews, Paul Millsap, Cj Miles, / Kirk Snyder, and that Almond guy.)

I didn't want the Jazz to be in the lottery this year, I mean with their #12 pick. I wanted whomever had lottery protected rights to that pick to get it this year, because whomever we get will be overpaid day one. But now that we have it, I sure hope that the Jazz will pick a sleeper, diamond it the ruff, kinda player because whomever it is will be pushing out a player we likely like to make room. (Price, K-Fes, AK, Watson)

Hope it's worth it.
 
The worst draft in the NBA history was the year when Kenyon Martin went No.1 and Mike Miller won the Rookie of the Year with 11.0 ppg.
 
The worst draft in the NBA history was the year when Kenyon Martin went No.1 and Mike Miller won the Rookie of the Year with 11.0 ppg.

This upcoming draft may suck, but I cannot fathom it being as bad as 2000. Was Jamal Crawford the best player of that class?
 
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Come on now, saying that it may be the worst in history and subsequently saying you don't know anything about the draft's history doesn't really help your argument.
 
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Musing's on the 2000 draft

This draft may suck, but I cannot fathom it being as bad as 2000. Was Jamal Crawford the best player of that class?
1) Drafting DeShawn Stevenson - who is still actually playing in the NBA on a good team - where the Jazz did relative to how bad the draft was can be considered a success.
2) Michael Redd was picked up in the 2nd round of THAT draft? Holy crap.
 
The US players that are moving up into the lottery are often undersized for their position.

Is it just me or does it seem like the media has unrealistic expectations for player's height/weight/length. For every player that has "good" size for their position, 5 others are considered undersized. We seem to have set this expectation that all C's must be 7 feet, PF 6'10", SF 6'9", SG 6'6", and PG 6'2". I was reading on nbadraft.net the other day and at least half of the prospects are considered "undersized" for their position. In fact, only one prospect on their draft board was listed as 7 feet tall. Guess who it is, Donatas Motiejunas, and he's not even a center.
 
Come on now, saying that it may be the worst in history and subsequently saying you don't know anything about the draft's history doesn't really help your argument.
Hmm, no embarrased smiley, need more smilies.

I've also noticed that a lot of high draft picks have rather bad weaknesses in their games.

It's true that the last several drafts have been thought of as bad drafts. I think this is because players are coming out much earlier than they used to, and thus do not have complete games. To compound this, the players that stay in school are looked at as bad players because -obviously- if they were good, they would have come out earlier.

Heh, next years draft should be good, and I think we have an extra pick from the Deron trade then.
 
This draft may suck, but I cannot fathom it being as bad as 2000. Was Jamal Crawford the best player of that class?
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Had some good value from the mid-first (Hedo Turkoglu, Desmond Mason, Quentin Richardson, Speedy Claxton, Morris Peterson, Mark Madsen) to 2nd-round (Marko Jaric, Eddie House, Eduardo Najera, Michael Redd, Brian Cardinal, Jason Hart:D) but the lottery was dreadful.
1. Kenyon Martin
2. Stromile Swift
3. Darius Miles
4. Marcus Fizer
5. Mike Miller
6. DeMarr Johnson
7. Chris Mihm
8. Jamal Crawford
9. Joel Pryzbilla
10. Keyon Dooling
11. Jerome Oiso
12. Etan Thomas
13. Courtney Alexander
14. Mateen Cleaves

Probably Michael Redd and Kenyon Martin were the two best players to come out of the draft - since both were able to fool GM's into giving them max-contracts before having their knees decompose right before our eyes.
 
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Its not a bad draft for the Jazz if you change your expectations. Normally you would expect a 6 pick to be a starter and challenge for an allstar--well maybe this year you get a guy who is a contributor but isn't an allstar

maybe that 12th pick ends up being a roll player.

Most teams make a mistake by swinging for the fences with thier picks, always pursuing that ever ellusive 'upside', thats why players like Redd, Milsap, Mathews fall.

Well the jazz kind of have a mulligan in this draft. With the 12th pick they can take a swing for the fences or play it safe. With the canidates available I'm leaning towards playing it safe--Fredette or Singlton.
 
Its not a bad draft for the Jazz if you change your expectations. Normally you would expect a 6 pick to be a starter and challenge for an allstar--well maybe this year you get a guy who is a contributor but isn't an allstar

maybe that 12th pick ends up being a roll player.

Most teams make a mistake by swinging for the fences with thier picks, always pursuing that ever ellusive 'upside', thats why players like Redd, Milsap, Mathews fall.

Well the jazz kind of have a mulligan in this draft. With the 12th pick they can take a swing for the fences or play it safe. With the canidates available I'm leaning towards playing it safe--Fredette or Singlton.

BOOOOOOOOO! Booooooooorrrrrring. How many times in team history have the Jazz had two lottery picks. Lets hope and assume these don't come around very often. It hurts me to say this, but I'm glad you're not our GM.
 
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Again, I will ****ing kill myself and you if the Jazz draft James Freddette at 12.
 
I said it before and I'll say it again, I think this draft will surprise a lot of people with the high quality of players and their transition to the NBA.
 
OK This video clip is very disturbing.
Don't like looking at this.

First of all, it's a GIF, not a movie. How long have you been using an internet?


Third of all, this is real life broh. Deal with it.
 
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