b_line
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I know you are, but what am I
Muslims - I want to go ON THE RECORD, right now.
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I know you are, but what am I
That's why I said I had a larger platform. Why I said what I would like to say if I did.
Worthwhile contribution kick.
I fully understand that there are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. I understand that there's probably well less than a million that cause the largest of the trouble. I'm WAAAAY ok with muslims. I'm ok with the LGBT community as well. I don't quite understand this, but I guess I don't have to.
I'm not ok with religious extremists of any sort. Any extremists, really(and if you really think I'm a liberal extremist, get a grip). Finding that line though... deciding that's where the "extremist" line is, well turns out that's hard. With something so difficult to see in the first place, trying to push others to adopt my vision of where the line is? That feels downright criminal.
I'm not ok with religious extremists of any sort. Any extremists, really(and if you really think I'm a liberal extremist, get a grip). Finding that line though... deciding that's where the "extremist" line is, well turns out that's hard. With something so difficult to see in the first place, trying to push others to adopt my vision of where the line is? That feels downright criminal.
Softy bs. We need to take a step forward, boots forward to eradicate these extremist dens of vipers. We need to spread democracy and freedom FROM religion to the backward Middle East and African tribalism. We need to continue building peaceful nations like we did in Japan and Germany and Europe. We need to fight Russian aggression and make everlasting peace w China by accepting there differences. We need to support Turkey in there hard times and quit pretending they are only allies when we need them to be. We should build a military base there that will control the areas around there that have been creating so much violence. We need to tell Saudi Arabs to turn towards democracy or we will pull out and get WTO to only allow free trade with nations that support human rights. Everyone who does not support Liberty will be tariffs 50% of sale value. They will pay all are taxes for us and there economies will become dead so we can have unlimited supply of cheap Chinese style labour.
Ah, democracy by force. So refreshing, not. No thanks.
If a nation wants to strive for democracy let's help them. But no thank you on forcing it on others and policing the world. We need to be involved but that does not mean being the police.
Why not when it is the most effective method for national security. Besides you do not care for basic human rights for your fellow man? Like little girls not being raped and stoned to death for answering the door in her pajamas.
I guess I am more of a humanitarian type.
False implied premise that all non democratic societies are this way.
Also forcing democracy on all nations and societies is not about national security. Another false premise.
Whaaaaat????
Have you not seen Japan Germany Italy after we forced democracy down there throats? How bout southern Korea? How about Iraq? Mission Acomplished.
The case of those three countries was not America policing the world. It was a world war that included China, Russia, all of Europe, Asia... vastly different than America and a few others toppling a gov.
I'm not for withdrawing from the world, but we are not its masters either.
I could point out that Korea is flawed as it's a split country into two countries. Also Iraq, Syria, Vietnam and Libya as failed attempts.
Again, emphatically, no thank you. If replies are more of the same I'll move on.
We can fix North Korea with covert black ops taking out the regime and securing the red button before storming the walls so to speak. Are military already knows this is a single day mission that will liberate millions in poverty. How can you say we should not use are clout to perform this liberating humanitarian action?
Winning a world war and forcing settlements was not policing the world? Okay