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My 2014 Jazz Agenda

Core4 said:
Maybe GVC can weigh in on this but I don't think we have cap space to take on any contracts right now. All that has to wait until we can officially renounce the rights to Beidrins, Rush, Jefferson and the rest (July 10th?). Until then, don't we have cap holds in place? So any trades before July would need almost matching salaries to work. Am I wrong?
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That's a good question. I tried to look it up, but couldn't come up with a definitive answer. If anyone else knows the answer, that would be helpful to know.
 
Good points!

Just cause I was curious I averaged out all of those players ages just to see what the team would be (I didn't include the 2 extra team spots either...)

(23, 22, 27, 22, 26, 19, 24, 23, 22, 26, 19, 21, 22) = 22.76 yrs old. (2.48 standard deviation). Oldest on team = 27, Youngest on team = 19.

(23, 22, 24, 23, 22) young starters = 22.8

This team would be the youngest team in the NBA, (according to rosters of last year).

The Jazz were the third youngest team last year at 24.9

If you can't tell I'm taking a statistics class right now.
 
Just to be clear though too, I do like that young team you put together and I'd be pretty excited to where it leads too.

Though adding Tomic might take away minutes from Gobert.
 
Core4 said:
Maybe GVC can weigh in on this but I don't think we have cap space to take on any contracts right now. All that has to wait until we can officially renounce the rights to Beidrins, Rush, Jefferson and the rest (July 10th?). Until then, don't we have cap holds in place? So any trades before July would need almost matching salaries to work. Am I wrong?
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Wouldn't a verbal agreement be enough to make this work? Jazz trade JLIII to Houston for their 1st round pick, with Jeremy Lin to be traded to the Jazz for a future 2nd round pick or cash considerations after July 10th - once they can renounce their contracts. They could even break it up into two transactions if they need to since the Jazz will easily be under the tax line at that point. The verbal agreement and trading the 1st round pick should be enough for both teams to have to honor the deal. Since Lin is under contract, the Rockets don't need to do anything with him yet, but can agree to trade him whenever they want to.
 
default said:
I like some of the things you did there except for . . . we would be very weak at the point guard position, defensively in the back court, and not really have a go to scorer.
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All problems that I ran into, but without being able to get a #1 scorer out of the draft (unless we can develop one) then the options are rather limited in all of those areas.

A.) Lin, Burke, Neto and Garrett might not be really strong, but it's not awful either. Like as in JLIII and Tinsley awful. Burke and Lin have both shown flashes of brilliance. It would be interesting to see a competition between them. I'm not a fan of Smart or Exum at #5. Just think that Aaron Gordon is going to be special. Like Payton and Ennis both, but have LaVine and his ridiculous upside rated higher. Had he been gone, both of them would have been in consideration for the 2nd pick. Considered Napier with the last pick, but again felt that the upside presented by McDaniels was worth more. . . especially since we haven't seen what Neto is going to be capable of yet.

B.) Defensively, Aaron Gordon and K. J. McDaniels are both good investments on the perimeter. LaVine doesn't help much now, but hopefully can through coaching and experience. He's kind of a finesse player like Steph Curry is. I think that's his ceiling if he ever gets his shot figured out. I think that Gordon Hayward and Alec Burks both have the ability to be better (if not good) defensively. Hayward probably more so.

C.) There's no Max Contract free agents that are going to be coming to Utah for awhile and I doubt that any of the top 3 teams will be trading down. You just have to take what you can get and make the most of it. Not sure that that go-to guy is on the roster right now. Gotta have assets to get him. Maybe one of the young guys steps up, or you look to make a trade here in the near future. Either way, you can't fix everything in one season after a year as bad as the Jazz just had. I think that my plan would be a solid step in the right direction.

The Jazz still have 4 solid picks in the next few years AND hopefully assets with better value than they're at right now. Buy low - sell high.
 
Doublea said:
Just to be clear though too, I do like that young team you put together and I'd be pretty excited to where it leads too.

Though adding Tomic might take away minutes from Gobert.
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Tomic would almost certainly take minutes away from Gobert, but I still think that there would be enough to go around. Especially during a true "developmental" year. Corbin didn't have the background that was needed to properly develop the young guys. Snyder does, and his staff does as well. There's going to be a lot of growing pains, but overall it's a solid front-court group.
 
Doublea said:
Good points!

Just cause I was curious I averaged out all of those players ages just to see what the team would be (I didn't include the 2 extra team spots either...)

(23, 22, 27, 22, 26, 19, 24, 23, 22, 26, 19, 21, 22) = 22.76 yrs old. (2.48 standard deviation). Oldest on team = 27, Youngest on team = 19.

(23, 22, 24, 23, 22) young starters = 22.8

This team would be the youngest team in the NBA, (according to rosters of last year).

The Jazz were the third youngest team last year at 24.9

If you can't tell I'm taking a statistics class right now.
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i like that. (youngest team)
would be cool to see the jazz playing well and fighting for the playoffs with the youngest team in the league.
 
Here's my issue. I feel like we're still developing Burks, Favors, Hayward, Kanter, Evans, and Burke. If we add five rookies, we're now asking our coaching staff to develop 11 young players simultaneously, as well as implementing a new offense, a new defense, along with the normal game-prep and focus on getting to the playoffs.

A coaching staff can only be spread so thin. It sounds like everybody is enthusiastic about being young, but being young isn't an end unto itself. The reason to go young is to try to figure out who you're going to build around. When you stay young, the focus seems to become cycling rookie contracts through your franchise while hoping for bad enough draft picks to get a star.

How well is that working out for the Timberwolves, who haven't made the playoffs in 10 years? How well did it work out for the Clippers, who made the playoffs 4 times in 29 years and were the laughing stock of the league?

I don't look forward to a scam future of youth and the false hopes of lottery picks.

I personally suspect that there's a severe limit on how much your team can improve if you're trying to develop 11 young guys at the same time.
 
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