Except it wouldn’t work like that. Even if secession was allowed it would be a massive **** show for everyone. We’d all suffer imo. We are way to connected.
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Except it wouldn’t work like that. Even if secession was allowed it would be a massive **** show for everyone. We’d all suffer imo. We are way to connected.
Uh, no. Life would go on, and the South would finally be forced to adapt to the 21st century without being held afloat by the welfare of the more successful parts of the US.
Never said it wouldn't go on. I said it would be a **** show and it would. I agree that your end result would come. But it wouldn't be all sunshine and rainbows for everyone else IMO.
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Regarding his claim, at the conclusion of the NATO meeting, that member countries had agreed to increase their defense spending. Well. as Macron noted after, that was not true at all. They simply remained committed to the 2% figure by 2024, that was already agreed to before the meeting. Further, the fool apparently thinks the money raised is placed into some kind of NATO "kitty". He still gets that wrong every time he talks about it, and acts as if member countries somehow owe the US money.
Personally, I do read a lot of the liberal press in the United States. The Washington Post being my favorite. Fox News, on the other hand, is simply state media, IMHO. Its the principle propaganda arm of the Trump administration. A free press has long been referred to as the 4th estate. I think an adversarial press is far healthier then a compliant press, since a compliant press is exactly what you have in Fox, which simply repeats Trump's many lies and offers no critique of the administration.
Anyway, I sometimes watch the man's rallies. I figured, if he were elected, that his governing style would consist of twitter and campaign style rallies, and that seems to be the case. Most presidents, once elected, make some effort to reach out to those who did not vote for them. They make some effort to be a president for all Americans. This guy speaks to his base. Period. And I do believe his ego needs these rallies.
Here's 3 minutes from his most recent rally, held in Montana. I really only need listen to the man in his own words to dislike him. I don't need any media, though I live off that media for intelligent analysis. But just watching and listening to him at his rallies is quite enough to sicken me, and disgust me. I see a man with no class, and someone who comes across as a clown. And, really, a total jerk. No liberal media actually required to come to that conclusion. And I don't support such a destructive jerk....
Personally, I do read a lot of the liberal press in the United States. The Washington Post being my favorite. Fox News, on the other hand, is simply state media, IMHO. Its the principle propaganda arm of the Trump administration. A free press has long been referred to as the 4th estate. I think an adversarial press is far healthier then a compliant press, since a compliant press is exactly what you have in Fox, which simply repeats Trump's many lies and offers no critique of the administration.
Anyway, I sometimes watch the man's rallies. I figured, if he were elected, that his governing style would consist of twitter and campaign style rallies, and that seems to be the case. Most presidents, once elected, make some effort to reach out to those who did not vote for them. They make some effort to be a president for all Americans. This guy speaks to his base. Period. And I do believe his ego needs these rallies.
Here's 3 minutes from his most recent rally, held in Montana. I really only need listen to the man in his own words to dislike him. I don't need any media, though I live off that media for intelligent analysis. But just watching and listening to him at his rallies is quite enough to sicken me, and disgust me. I see a man with no class, and someone who comes across as a clown. And, really, a total jerk. No liberal media actually required to come to that conclusion. And I don't support such a destructive jerk....
It wouldn't be sunshine and rainbows, no. But I think it would be for the best. I'd rather not have to follow a nationalist leadership, and I'm sure the nationalists want nothing to do with the progressives. So you know, let them do their thing, and let natural selection take care of the rest.
I'd rather a press that isn't adversarial or compliant. Simply fact based with no thought to how it relates to the current admins line. I think the major outlets pigeon hole their own brands with the pundit shows they have. Like Hannity and Maddow. They'd see a far better response as far as trust if the "news" outlets dropped these shows and went strictly fact based. Start a separate network that focuses on opinion if that's what they want.
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Man if Texas ever succeeds, I'd be there within a week permanently. I'll get a Texas passport and enjoy life and no income tax.
That would be so cool if Texas did that. Cool for the rest of the U.S..
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The authoritarians do not understand charity trumps anything government has ever done.
The poor had better medical care before medicare!
The poor had better medical care before medicare!
It'd seriously be fantastic. OK, AB, AK, MS, etc can follow. Enjoy your tax free haven! We'll just focus on building a decent, modern society.
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Oh yes, the great medical care of early 20th century medicine. Sounds legit.