National Lampoon's European Vacation staring Donald Trump

[Deleted member 5000]

Ask a doctor who is old enough, there are some still around, it's illegal for them to work for free. That's what they use to do. Now they must go thru the bureaucracy to do so.

It was free will charity. Beautiful. Not tyrant bureaucracy, who by the way, has bankrupted the greatest creditor nation in history. "Social Security" while a great idea, is a ponzi scheme. You trust snakes, go ahead.

 

[Siro]

Ask a doctor who is old enough, there are some still around, it's illegal for them to work for free. That's what they use to do. Now they must go thru the bureaucracy to do so.

It was free will charity. Beautiful. Not tyrant bureaucracy, who by the way, has bankrupted the greatest creditor nation in history. "Social Security" while a great idea, is a ponzi scheme. You trust snakes, go ahead.

Suuuuuuuch clichés!

I'm sure when amputation was the cure for a minor infection, before antibiotics were invented, and when a quarter of children didn't live past their 10th year, medicine was much easier to cover through the charity of your neighbors. Now that it costs 100s of thousands a head to keep practically everyone alive into their 80s, it's not so easy. You know, because it's a different world. One where people are healthier, safer, and more financially secure (those are facts, now THAT trumps your silly old doctor anecdotes). Sorry that you only care about kicking the Mexicans out, but some of us look for other qualities in our public officials.

 

[Deleted member 5000]

Man I wish you could meet me. Married to latina. Spend much time in South America.

I'm very well versed in philosophy and such. If you're sincere Siro I think you'd find "The Revolution" a Manifesto by Ron Paul to be quite eye opening. I have it to my liberal brother in law and he couldn't rebut it, just said "naw he's not a republican" to which I was like yea, he's more like a founding father.

They were more educated than your average person today and they didn't even have internet?

 

[Deleted member 5000]

Do you know why we use the "Inch" in America?

Do you know why the great pyramid and eye on the back of your money represent? It's not malevolent. Anyway, good day dude.

 

[8]

Man if Texas ever succeeds, I'd be there within a week permanently. I'll get a Texas passport and enjoy life and no income tax.

What will it take to make Texas successful and why are they so unsuccessful now?

 

[Deleted member 5000]

What will it take to make Texas successful and why are they so unsuccessful now?

What is Texas unsuccessful at?

 

[Red]

I'd rather a press that isn't adversarial or compliant. Simply fact based with no thought to how it relates to the current admins line. I think the major outlets pigeon hole their own brands with the pundit shows they have. Like Hannity and Maddow. They'd see a far better response as far as trust if the "news" outlets dropped these shows and went strictly fact based. Start a separate network that focuses on opinion if that's what they want.

Well, a press that is pointing out Trump's lies and alternative facts is, in my opinion, doing the citizenry a service by so doing. Now, since Trump labels any and all news that does not cast him in a favorable light as "fake news", that press that is pointing out his lies is automatically seen as adversarial by Trump and Trump supporters. Indeed, he has not only referred to that press as "fake news", he has called the press "the enemy of the people". At his most recent Montana rally, as he does at all his rallies, he pointed to the press area and called them "bad people". Is that right? Is that not dangerous, to label a free press the enemy of the people?

So I am not sure how the press points out "just the facts" in this case, without being adversarial in the eyes of Trump and his supporters, since he is a serial liar, and I want a press that is going to expose those lies, not simply report them with no commentary or analysis.

As far as cable networks, yes, those 24 hour news vehicles have changed everything by supplying partisan viewpoints round the clock. It has added to the divisiveness we are experiencing at this time in our history. No doubt. I do watch MSNBC, but, even with my obvious left leaning tilt, I am not oblivious to the overkill....

 

[Siro]

Man I wish you could meet me. Married to latina. Spend much time in South America.

I'm very well versed in philosophy and such. If you're sincere Siro I think you'd find "The Revolution" a Manifesto by Ron Paul to be quite eye opening. I have it to my liberal brother in law and he couldn't rebut it, just said "naw he's not a republican" to which I was like yea, he's more like a founding father.

They were more educated than your average person today and they didn't even have internet?

You're well versed in philosophy and you're blown away by a book by Ron Paul? I doubt you're versed in philosophy. Also, I don't consider myself a liberal. I'm more of a nihilist. I just enjoy mocking people's convictions. I guess that also answers your question about my sincerity.

And people were not more educated. Why do you keep making things up?

 

[Deleted member 5000]

For the aesthetic principal I voted for the Constitution party candidate in the last presidential election - I've vowed to vote 3rd party in National elections for the rest of my life. Not in 2020 though, it's trump.

Who by the way is not an angel. He's formally a quasi Clinton crony, the Clinton campaign secretly promoted him to win because they though they'd never lose to him. They also F'd over Bernie. Their trump plan backfired.

 

[Deleted member 5000]

I guess that also answers your question about my sincerity.

Why do you keep making things up?

Well I do remember you making the comment here "even my fat tail can dunk"

Let's see it - I'll call you out on that lie.

 

[Red]

I'd rather a press that isn't adversarial or compliant. Simply fact based with no thought to how it relates to the current admins line. I think the major outlets pigeon hole their own brands with the pundit shows they have. Like Hannity and Maddow. They'd see a far better response as far as trust if the "news" outlets dropped these shows and went strictly fact based. Start a separate network that focuses on opinion if that's what they want.

Put more simply, if the President states something that is not true, how am I expected to know that without either doing the research entirely on my own, to determine if his statement is true or untrue, or by relying on a free and honest press to fact check and tell me if it is true or not true? I mean, there is such a thing as the "Big Lie", and I do believe, in a very Orwellian fashion, this administration is a proponent of the Big Lie. Such as, for example, calling the press the enemy of the people. That is an opinion shared by any authoritarian who has ruled over any nation that ever had a free press. I do not believe the role of the press is to report facts alone, without placing those facts in some kind of context. When the president lies, and it can be determined that he has lied, I expect a free and honest press to say as much. If that makes a particular press outlet seem adversarial, well, don't lie!

 

[Siro]

Well I do remember you making the comment here "even my fat tail can dunk"

Let's see it - I'll call you out on that lie.

It doesn't exactly boggle the mind that a 6'4+ guy in his 30s can dunk. I don't know why that comment stuck with you, but it isn't relevant to anything being discussed. I can live with you thinking I'm lying about my dunking ability.

Why can't you back up any of those claims you continue to make? Medical outlook was better in the early 20th century! People were more educated during the time of the founders! What drivel! I expected more from someone with such voracious philosophical training.