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NBA admitted they made the wrong call on Harden/Withey foul

Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't think you can do much about this, but if you were to tie referee compensation or the amount of games they get to ref in the playoffs (again compensation) they might be less likely to just swallow the whistle. Generally refs don't want to decide the game... blowing the whistle is an act that may be viewed as something they will be held more accountable for than not making a call.

The crew last night was bad... so many late calls. The rec league I play in refs the same way... watch the results and if the guy misses call a foul. It was bush league last night.
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So that's where teams having the ability to 'challenge' a call would be beneficial in this case, it would make the refs more 'free' to make a call and not too 'scared' to make the right call because the team can review it if they feel it's incorrect.


If anything it would make the process more transparent and the refs more accountable.
 
So they admit their mistake, and it is reasonable that the mistake affected the outcome of the game. So if the jazz miss the playoffs by one game, can the Millers collect a check for the playoffs? after all it impacts thier bottom line. Can Quin claim the win for his permanant record? after all it could impact his ability to get another job. Do the players get playoff bonuses? Do the arena workers get reimbursed for missed pay?

What a sticky mess. The NBA should just award the Jazz the #1 pick in the draft and call it even.
 
I was watching a HOU game last week and they interviewed the Rockets owner during the broadcast (colour commentator was Clyde Drexler BTW). But anyway what the owner said during the broadcast was quite interesting. He commented on a play where the ref made a questionable call and he said that these refs think that they own the league but in fact it's the owners who own the league and they should remember that. (or something along those lines).


I thought that was interesting because it sort of put things in perspective... the owners do in fact own the league and they can implement whatever review/replay process they want. The refs are just employees in this situation. So if the owners feel that a 'challenge' process is appropriate for the Game as a whole and make the NBA a better product for the viewers, they can install it without the 'consent' of the refs.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I don't see your point?


My point is to prevent an unjust outcome (which this clearly is the case here - the NBA admitted as much), there should be an avenue for a team to ask for a review. Currently refs can only review out of bound plays in the final 2 minutes and not the foul or non-foul. One could argue refs missing a 'foul' call is just as important as missing an out of bound call.
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U simply can't do this in the NBA. can't just stop the clock during play to check the play. And if the play stood then it's possible the other team could lose out on a possible fast break dunk or layup.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
U simply can't do this in the NBA. can't just stop the clock during play to check the play. And if the play stood then it's possible the other team could lose out on a possible fast break dunk or layup.
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Well my point is you can challenge the call at the next stoppage/dead ball.


In the case of the Jazz, HOU called a time out straight after the 'foul', IIRC, so the Jazz could have challenged the call then. If HOU didn't call a time out and scored at the other end, then the Jazz can challenge straight after. If the challenge was upheld, then HOU's basket would not count (i.e., they shouldn't have scored anyway). If the challenge is not upheld then there is no issue.

The Jazz could also foul straight after the questionable call if they feel that the call was incorrect and 'challenge' after the whistle - simple.
 
I think this one hurt so much because it was a double foul where he got pushed in the back in the air (that moved him considerably), as well as getting hit from the front. I think the refs were taking the whole, "I'm not gonna make a call that decides the game" a little far.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Well my point is you can challenge the call at the next stoppage/dead ball.


In the case of the Jazz, HOU called a time out straight after the 'foul', IIRC, so the Jazz could have challenged the call then. If HOU didn't call a time out and scored at the other end, then the Jazz can challenge straight after. If the challenge was upheld, then HOU's basket would not count (i.e., they shouldn't have scored anyway). If the challenge is not upheld then there is no issue.

The Jazz could also foul straight after the questionable call if they feel that the call was incorrect and 'challenge' after the whistle - simple.
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Simply put, if you feel confident there should have been a foul called but it wasn't, just foul the the other team, get to a dead ball situation and 'challenge'.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Simply put, if you feel confident there should have been a foul called but it wasn't, just foul the the other team, get to a dead ball situation and 'challenge'.
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Honestly you don't even need to do that. If you can stop play with non fouls like they give to superstars then you can stop play for a challenge. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If it weren't for the Jazz. I wouldn't watch the NBA. It's not about the game of basketball but rather the stars of the teams. IMO anyway.


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ONE LOVE said:
Simply put, if you feel confident there should have been a foul called but it wasn't, just foul the the other team, get to a dead ball situation and 'challenge'.
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So you foul and give more free throws? Or just contest a play to stop a fast break? It would give defense a time out effectively. I see so many problems with this idea. It will never happen. Ref mistakes are a part of the game.

I would rather have a fourth ref watching from the angle of cameras.
 
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