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NBA Finals: Spurs vs. Heat

Who gunna win this ****?

  • Spurs

    Votes: 28 73.7%

  • Heat

    Votes: 10 26.3%
  • Total voters
    38
MoreFeasts said:
Maybe he doesn't, but I disagree that he can't. Seems to me that the Heat always have 5 guys on the floor that can hit a shot. Probably their weakest link is Birdman, and he shot like 95% last series, so.... I'm nitpicking you on this point.
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The Heat have overrated shooters, at least from the outside! They shoot a high percentage overall because of the turnovers they create that turn into fast break dunks! Not going to happen against the Spurs! Hard to get a fast break basket.....when your taking the ball out of bounds after the Spurs have scored on ya! Plus, they don't turn the ball over that much to begin with! Popovich doesn't mind 3 pointers, but if you miss them they can turn into fast break outlet passes that the Heat will then dunk on your head!
 
carolinajazz said:
The Heat have overrated shooters, at least from the outside! They shoot a high percentage overall because of the turnovers they create that turn into fast break dunks! Not going to happen against the Spurs! Hard to get a fast break basket.....when your taking the ball out of bounds after the Spurs have scored on ya! Plus, they don't turn the ball over that much to begin with! Popovich doesn't mind 3 pointers, but if you miss them they can turn into fast break outlet passes that the Heat will then dunk on your head!
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Well, now you are changing things around, not just scoring, but shooting from outside, that's a different point.
Bringing home the original argument:

Haslem is very accurate from medium range.
Allen is an all time great shooter.
Bman finishes at a high %.
Wade is an allstar scorer.
Bosh is an allstar scorer.
Battier is a smart efficient player.
Miller has proven to be a superb shooter in the playoffs.
The other guards seem effective scoring both on the drive and shooting from what I've seen of them.
I guess they have one backup on the front line who doesn't get many minutes or short attempts.

So I don't think LeBron needs to feel that he can't trust his teammates to score.
If you are going to limit the argument to long range shooting, I am still skeptical. Seems to me the Heat have plenty of good long range shooters, if you go down the rosters and compare them man to man.
Maybe this explains your 99 out of a hundred projections. I think you are off base here.
 
People keep saying that San Antonio is Indiana with a PG.

Huh?

San Antonio has a bench and tons of guys who can make it rain from 3.

In addition to getting a PG, Indy needs to find some 3 pt shooting. Stevenson's shot was ugly, like Brewer's.
 
MoreFeasts said:
Well, now you are changing things around, not just scoring, but shooting from outside, that's a different point.
Seems to me the Heat have plenty of good long range shooters, if you go down the rosters and compare them man to man.
Maybe this explains your 99 out of a hundred projections. I think you are off base here.
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.....The Heat shot well from 3 point land during the regular season.....when there fast break domination opened up things and created wide open shots. But now that the playoffs have started and the game becomes more half-court oriented and the collar gets tight on those shooters, I don't think they've done nearly as well. Be that as it may, unless Lebron can penetrate into the lane (and the Spurs are stopping that for the most part) the Heat's offense is pathetically generic and not that efficient! Simply stated: the Spurs half-court offense is much better than the Heat's......and the Heat have neither the time nor the proper type players to change that much! Spurs in 5.....maybe 4!
 
The Thriller said:
People keep saying that San Antonio is Indiana with a PG.

Huh?

San Antonio has a bench and tons of guys who can make it rain from 3.

In addition to getting a PG, Indy needs to find some 3 pt shooting. Stevenson's shot was ugly, like Brewer's.
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I haven't heard people say that. But yeah, they're extremely different teams.
 
carolinajazz said:
.....The Heat shot well from 3 point land during the regular season.....when there fast break domination opened up things and created wide open shots. But now that the playoffs have started and the game becomes more half-court oriented and the collar gets tight on those shooters, I don't think they've done nearly as well. Be that as it may, unless Lebron can penetrate into the lane (and the Spurs are stopping that for the most part) the Heat's offense is pathetically generic and not that efficient! Simply stated: the Spurs half-court offense is much better than the Heat's......and the Heat have neither the time nor the proper type players to change that much! Spurs in 5.....maybe 4!
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I've heard coaches say that the teams with the two best offenses are the Spurs and the Heat. Miami doesn't just play isolation basketball like they did their first year together. They move the ball very well and find the open shooters. You don't go on the second longest winning streak in NBA history if you have a ****ty offense. I agree they don't have the same precision as San Antonio in the half court, but you make it sound like you're talking about the Jazz instead of the Heat.

Furthermore, I think anyone that says this series is going to only be 4 games is kidding themselves. When I was originally making my prediction I had a hard time deciding if it was going to go to 6 or 7 games. Right now I'm thinking 7.
 
carolinajazz said:
.....The Heat shot well from 3 point land during the regular season.....when there fast break domination opened up things and created wide open shots. But now that the playoffs have started and the game becomes more half-court oriented and the collar gets tight on those shooters, I don't think they've done nearly as well. Be that as it may, unless Lebron can penetrate into the lane (and the Spurs are stopping that for the most part) the Heat's offense is pathetically generic and not that efficient! Simply stated: the Spurs half-court offense is much better than the Heat's......and the Heat have neither the time nor the proper type players to change that much! Spurs in 5.....maybe 4!
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Again, you are changing the discussion midstream. I was not addressing whether the Spurs or the Heat will win. I was addressing your assertion that Lebron doesn't have anyone else on his team that he can trust to make a shot, which is ridiculous when the entire team shoots a fantastic percentage from all ranges. If the Heat get beat, it will not be because Lebron can't trust anyone else on his team to make a shot.
 
spycam1 said:
I've heard coaches say that the teams with the two best offenses are the Spurs and the Heat. Miami doesn't just play isolation basketball like they did their first year together. They move the ball very well and find the open shooters. You don't go on the second longest winning streak in NBA history if you have a ****ty offense. I agree they don't have the same precision as San Antonio in the half court, but you make it sound like you're talking about the Jazz instead of the Heat.

Furthermore, I think anyone that says this series is going to only be 4 games is kidding themselves. When I was originally making my prediction I had a hard time deciding if it was going to go to 6 or 7 games. Right now I'm thinking 7.
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....that 27 game winning streak was more the result of a water downed league than anything the Heat were responsible for! More than half of these NBA players barely finished one year of college ball and learned most of what they do from their schoolyard days or from watching the AND1 league! The Heat are basically a conglomeration of talented but "one on one" players who, if given the choice or opportunity, would dump the most simple of play books and go about their business of "creating" their own shot! In addition, if todays NBA clowns would have to play by the original "basketball rules" (no palming, no traveling, no "crab walks", etc. etc. etc.) they'd end up shooting about 25% and committing twice as many turnovers than assists....which the Heat have done a number of times even this year!
 
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