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They’ll vote tomorrow on these and it’s very likely to pass. The most interesting part is the taking draft picks away at the commissioners discretion. I do think that will scare teams a bit. I’d love to see the league cut this down as much as they can. I feel the focus in the NBA is often to focused on these sorts of things anymore than the actual game. It’s gotten kind of old.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...ng-proposal-center-owner-meeting?platform=amp
 
A lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. The punishments are scary for conservative owners with limited financial resources, but not enough to scare the wealthier owners who are risk adverse. Self made billionaires don't get to be billionaires by following the rules and playing it safe. The Lakers aren't going to care about losing a late first round pick but end up with Houston won't care if they are fined 10-million, the potential gains still outweigh the risk.

The new rules will probably net another Joe Smith from a small market while coming up empty of the big fish and the big players.
 
mellow said:
A lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. The punishments are scary for conservative owners with limited financial resources, but not enough to scare the wealthier owners who are risk adverse. Self made billionaires don't get to be billionaires by following the rules and playing it safe. The Lakers aren't going to care about losing a late first round pick but end up with Houston won't care if they are fined 10-million, the potential gains still outweigh the risk.

The new rules will probably net another Joe Smith from a small market while coming up empty of the big fish and the big players.
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The key is how seriously Silver means business here. I agree that it won’t prevent it but it may make it more difficult and may change things a little. If he’s actually willing to take draft picks, suspend league executives, and audit personal devices, and voiding contracts it’s going to change things a little bit, although I don’t necessarily think it changes the overall outcome of anything that actually happens.

If you lose picks, the contract is voided, you have your personal device audited(and everything on it they get to see, not just info related to the tampering, they may find other stuff), and you as a GM may get suspended for it, I do actually think you may think twice or it may become a bit more difficult/you’ll be more careful about it. Losing picks and having the contract voided, and having your job suspended might deter some of it. But again, it’s all about how serious Silver is about actually doing those things.


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Kyoto said:
Uh oh, I can totally see the players locking out during the next CBA

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That was going to happen anyway. I think the board of Governors were going to demand changes. The majority of players can't be happy with how they were represented anyway. Right now it all benefits the very top tier players, while middle and lower players get screwed both when a star requests a trade and when the money dries up. We signed Green in part because all the money was gone. The stars are getting paid and living the high life while the majority of players have to feel under-represented and screwed by the current situation. NBA's CBA is up in 2023-24 I believe, they can agree to re-work it after 2022-23 if both sides agree to terminate and renegotiate, so those conversations are still a few years out. Silver has done a good job being player friendly and even seeming player friendly while siding with board of Governors. In the end he works for the board of Governors, not the players, and I think the majority of NBA governors feel he hasn't done enough in regards to this. I'm sure he's had some pressure on him by a large majority of them to address this after the past couple years. I'm interested at how much Silver will use the power he was just granted, because I think there will a lot of those he's representing that will pressure he uses those levers if things don't improve.
 
oneye said:
That was going to happen anyway. I think the board of Governors were going to demand changes. The majority of players can't be happy with how they were represented anyway. Right now it all benefits the very top tier players, while middle and lower players get screwed both when a star requests a trade and when the money dries up. We signed Green in part because all the money was gone. The stars are getting paid and living the high life while the majority of players have to feel under-represented and screwed by the current situation. NBA's CBA is up in 2023-24 I believe, they can agree to re-work it after 2022-23 if both sides agree to terminate and renegotiate, so those conversations are still a few years out. Silver has done a good job being player friendly and even seeming player friendly while siding with board of Governors. In the end he works for the board of Governors, not the players, and I think the majority of NBA governors feel he hasn't done enough in regards to this. I'm sure he's had some pressure on him by a large majority of them to address this after the past couple years. I'm interested at how much Silver will use the power he was just granted, because I think there will a lot of those he's representing that will pressure he uses those levers if things don't improve.
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Ah that's good to know that it's a ways away. I had no idea when this agreement expired

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oneye said:
Right now it all benefits the very top tier players, while middle and lower players get screwed both when a star requests a trade and when the money dries up. We signed Green in part because all the money was gone. The stars are getting paid and living the high life while the majority of players have to feel under-represented and screwed by the current situation.
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Probably true, but I think the middle and lower tier players have to recognize that the league is only as popular as it is due to the top tier franchise guys. You could replace 3/4 of the league with the best non-NBA players oversees and you wouldn't notice much of a dip in play or popularity ($). Jeff Green isn't driving the league's revenue, nor does he make a huge impacts in the win-loss column.

Is the league minimum and maximum salaries a request of the players association or the league? I'm not sure. If there was no maximum guys like LeBron, KD, and Steph would be making a lot more money. Maybe double or more what they are making now. You have to wonder if they feel like they are being screwed by the current CBA.
 
This rule is just a band aid until the current CBA expires - then things are going to get ugly.

This rule also assumes the average league executive is as dumb as Magic Johnson - this is probably not the case.
 
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