NBA players using "lockout" money wisely???

[NUMBERICA]

I once drove my little Nissan 4 banger truck over 100 MPH coming home from Snow College just because I needed to drop a deuce so bad I could practically taste it and I didn't want to pull over at a truck stop.

Hahaha

 

[bigb]

...I take it "dropping a deuce" must mean getting a hit....NOT losing a 2 dollar bill at the horse races???

Let me teach you something here:

 

[carolinajazz]

......so dropping a deuce means taking a dump? I thought you said "you could almost taste it!" Your not suppose to taste those things...your suppose to flush them!

 

[TroutBum]

I feel bad about this because GF and Salty have been great supporters of the VoteBallou campaign, but man... The responses in this thread are so agonizingly stupid that I really can't believe what I'm reading. Anyone -- and I mean this, anyone who thinks that getting ripped doesn't/wouldn't impair you behind the wheel and put themselves and other drivers at risk is a moron. Plain. Simple. Moron.

Because Viagra isn't impairing anyone's senses to the point that it could hurt or kill someone else.

Neither does marijuana.

See my above statement. Unfortunately, the usually nimble-minded GameFace has shown this same lack of mental awareness:

You saying marijuana impairs people to the point that they're hurting and killing people is the only thing intellectually dishonest going on here.

Again, I'm in awe that anyone can seriously have this opinion without having a major brain injury to blame it on. Brace yourselves, I'm about to go S2Emoticon on all yallz asses.

Impairs, yes.

So, it does impair. Check. Just making sure, because you said earlier that it didn't impair people.

Makes paranoid, user dependent.

User dependent? WTF is that supposed to mean? So it only causes paranoia for some people? The vast majority of pot smokers suffer some degree of paranoia. If you're constantly looking out your window and in your mirrors for cops/aliens/Bob Ross, then your focus isn't on the road or what you're doing -- also known as impairment.

Causes hallucinations, no.

Again, incorrect. Not only have I personally had some ridiculously awesome hallucinations while high, but according to wiki (ya, ya): "At higher doses, effects can include altered body image, auditory and/or visual illusions, pseudo-hallucinatory or (rarely, at very high doses) fully hallucinatory experiences." and The American Council for Drug Education calls it, "A mild hallucinogen". Maybe it didn't or doesn't for you, but it most certainly does for a vast majority of users.

Causes dizziness/lack of coordination, no.

You're not serious here, right? Every single googled site will tell you that Marijuana causes dizziness and/or lack of coordination. To state otherwise is just folly.

Addictive, no.

Laughable, at the very least. Again, a simple google search of, "is marijuana addictive" will pretty much put this bitch to sleep.

Cancer causing, no.

Incorrect. While some studies show that there isn't nearly the same risk as smoking tobacco, weed still has risks and many of the same carcinogens that are found in cigs. https://lungcancer.about.com/od/causesoflungcance1/f/marijuana.htm (for example)

Impairs cognition/decision making, big yes.

So, here we have it again. It does impair your cognition and decision making. Got it.

So, to sum up: Smoking weed Impairs, causes Paranoia, causes hallucinations, causes dizziness and a lack of coordination, is addictive, causes cancer, and impairs your cognition and decision making. That being said, you're still ok with this:

You saying marijuana impairs people to the point that they're hurting and killing people is the only thing intellectually dishonest going on here.

Please tell me that you misread what Salty was saying. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you when you tell me you were wasted when you originally started posting in this thread. Phew.

Marijuana has roughly the same impairment as coffee, but in the opposite way. Coffee wires you up, marijuana calms you down. Neither is anything like alcohol, and neither impairs the ability to drive.

I can't seriously believe that you wrote that. I mean, 90% of what you say on this board is pure rubbish, but to make the assertion that Marijuana has "roughly the same impairment as coffee" is asinine. Screw asinine, it's Mad Max, beyond Dumbass Dome. Holy **** Salty, pull your head out. If you smoke weed, you get high. If you're high, you're impaired. If you're impaired and you drive, you're just as dangerous as some *** face who is drinking. This really is black and white: Either you're impaired or you're not.

Pot isn't like alcohol. I understand that alcohol impairs the ability to drive and anyone that has ever had a drink knows this. Pot, on the other hand, does not. And anyone that has ever smoked pot knows this.

Classic. And to put the icing on the cake:

Based on how it affected me back when I used to smoke weed, I would say that smoking weed would not make my driving any more dangerous. If anything I would say it makes you more cautious and pay more attention.

At this point Salty goes on to tell us all that smoking pot and driving is akin to taking Tums or Aspirin and driving. It's really not worth re-posting as I've already wasted enough time on this train wreck. In short, if you're high and you're driving, you're at a higher risk of killing yourself or someone else. Don't F'ing do it, it's not worth it.

 

[TroutBum]

Also, while I'm here, I want to point out that I am all for legalization of Marijuana. I believe it has some good qualities, and like alcohol, if taken in moderation it can be a great social lubricant and satisfying habit. I sometimes wish I was still a pot head.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Trout, I make this post fully understanding that your last s2minem style multi quote post totally fit the standard m.o. of this board (ad hominem based, you must be right because you pointed out that a particular poster is a jackass most of the time).

Apparently you missed the part where the actual government studies were posted so I'll repost them for you.

The one I posted which shows marijuana use "does not appear to play a significant role in on-road traffic accidents":
https://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5450

And the one SalmonHobo posted (who was debating against me in the thread, but unlike you actually attempted to use some facts instead of your standard "you must be wrong because I think you're a jackass"):
https://www.duiblog.com/2009/04/23/does-marijuana-affect-driving-ability/

So as you can see if you bother to read those links, my opinion that marijuana does not affect your ability to drive is based on facts. Not only has it been my own experience, but also the government studies had similar conclusions.

And I also said that I think smoking way too much would affect the ability to drive, just like doing way too much of anything else will also affect the ability to drive. So no need to even go there.

 

[Scat]

I know there would be some outrage if this ever came to pass, but I think at... I don't know... 60, drivers should have to re-take the written and driving tests to retain their licenses. People should be able to drive as long as they are able, but in my opinion, it is irresponsible fantasy to just assume that a driver's ability doesn't wane with age like literally everything else in life does.

I think 60 is a bit young. Hell, most 60 year olds still have to get up and go to work every day and drive no differently that the general public. I think that 70 or even 75 is probably a better age to start mandatory testing when re-upping a license.