NCAA Ed O'Bannon ruling.

[Gameface]

https://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/11329099/why-ed-obannon-ruling-haunt-ncaa

A federal judge in Oakland ruled on Friday in the Ed O'Bannon litigation that the NCAA must eliminate its rules against payments to college athletes for commercial use of their names, images and likenesses. The ruling and the judge's 99-page opinion raise significant legal questions about the NCAA's governance of college sports and paying college athletes for their performances. Here are some of the questions and their answers:

I'm all for this and additional compensation for college players. But to me the idea that a player must completely give up the rights to their likeness and that the college could make significant profits by using player's likenesses seemed incredibly wrong to me. In particular I read about a case about a player who was punished by the NCAA because someone gave him a money for a signed football.

I've never understood the opposition to compensating college athletes. I've listened to the standard reasons and have not found them compelling at all.

 

[LogGrad98]

Some would argue that a free education when others have to pay 10's of thousands for the same opportunity does constitute compensation.

 

[Gameface]

Some would argue that a free education when others have to pay 10's of thousands for the same opportunity does constitute compensation.

Sure, but why should that mean that they are prohibited from receiving any other form of compensation?

One of the biggest issues is the tremendous incentive to break the rules. That's always a sign of a broken system, in my opinion. Why not figure out what these top college athletes are worth and give them their big boy cut of the pie that they helped make?

 

[LogGrad98]

Sure, but why should that mean that they are prohibited from receiving any other form of compensation?

One of the biggest issues is the tremendous incentive to break the rules. That's always a sign of a broken system, in my opinion. Why not figure out what these top college athletes are worth and give them their big boy cut of the pie that they helped make?

I agree with that, I just think that the cost of the education is often taken for granted, which is kind of sad considering that for many of these athletes the education is the best thing they will get out of college (as in not all of them are pros in the making).

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As I think about this the question to me is how much do they need to earn beyond the education? For many of these colleges it is not uncommon for a degree to cost $35k to $50k+. I know for me working full time to put myself through college while raising my family I still took out student loans to help with my degree. How much should they make?

 

[Dr. Jones]

This will be a very long process. The NCAA will fight it and fight it... but ultimately it's inevitable. Once the no-pay becomes a stipend, it will evolve into something fair and sustainable. But it will takes years.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

As I think about this the question to me is how much do they need to earn beyond the education? For many of these colleges it is not uncommon for a degree to cost $35k to $50k+. I know for me working full time to put myself through college while raising my family I still took out student loans to help with my degree. How much should they make?

It's much more than that for a lot of them. USC would cost around $250,000 if you didn't have any student financial aid when you factor in all the ancillary costs as well:

https://www.collegecalc.org/colleges/california/university-of-southern-california/

So insane.

 

[LogGrad98]

It's much more than that for a lot of them. USC would cost around $250,000 if you didn't have any student financial aid when you factor in all the ancillary costs as well.

Yeah I should have added per year to that.

 

[LogGrad98]

Results
Duke University
Durham, North Carolina

TOTAL ANNUAL COST
(includes tuition, fees, room and board and books; excludes grants or scholarships)
$57,506
TUITION
$42,033
STUDENTS RECEIVING SCHOLARSHIPS OR GRANTS
54%
FOUR-YEAR GRADUATION RATE
89%
Sources: Peterson's - a Nelnet company; US Department of Education; College Board.

https://money.cnn.com/tools/collegecost/collegecost.html


So that means that Duke players who received full ride scholarships "made" at least $50k per year while playing basketball. How much more should it be, realistically? Is $200k per year per player the right amount? Or just $100k? To me this is a pretty tough call to make.

 

[framer]

Except for this law does not lie in a vacuum. You are going to have to factor in title 9. What happens when Johnny Football makes 200,000 per year at card shows while in college and Jane Smith on the woman's soccer team cannot? Do you subsidize ALL of the schools athletes at whatever your best college football player can pull in? Because I guarantee you there will be lawsuits claiming that you have to.