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New SLC Homeless Shelters

It's good to see the county taking more responsibility but I'm a little concerned about the overall lack of beds. I hope this doesn't lead to more homeless camping but I fear it will. The problems with the road home are that it's too big, it's not a 24-hour shelter(they kick everybody out during the day), and they serve the homeless rather than a subset of the homeless. The new plan solves these problems but the overall scale is unrealistic. They're putting in 600 new beds(if the new county shelter gets built) but they're going to remove 1100? Am I going to be able to take my kids to the park anymore?
I have yet to hear a plan to address those 500 people. Are they just going to wait until homeless camping gets out of hand and then expand the new shelters? They just bumped them from 150 to 200 and they haven't even built them yet. I'm glad Dancing Cranes is staying where it's at but their plan just went from insufficient to crazy insufficient.
 
Mayor Biskupski is digging herself deeper into a hole. This is getting worse and worse. She has no gone back on her word. Money is clearly the most important factor in this. We have moved the shelter out of the neighborhood that complained the most. We moved the homeless shelter out of idustrial/business area because of wealthy business owners and developers in the area. There will be the same problems at the new shelters but now instead of one area that is industrial/business and known the problem is in neighborhoods.

There are so many problems with this plan and its getting worse. I think it is time they scrap the plan and start over.
 
♪alt13 said:
It's good to see the county taking more responsibility but I'm a little concerned about the overall lack of beds. I hope this doesn't lead to more homeless camping but I fear it will. The problems with the road home are that it's too big, it's not a 24-hour shelter(they kick everybody out during the day), and they serve the homeless rather than a subset of the homeless. The new plan solves these problems but the overall scale is unrealistic. They're putting in 600 new beds(if the new county shelter gets built) but they're going to remove 1100? Am I going to be able to take my kids to the park anymore?
I have yet to hear a plan to address those 500 people. Are they just going to wait until homeless camping gets out of hand and then expand the new shelters? They just bumped them from 150 to 200 and they haven't even built them yet. I'm glad Dancing Cranes is staying where it's at but their plan just went from insufficient to crazy insufficient.
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Oh good night this nagging with no information continues?

Research PAY FOR SUCCESS folks. It is an innovative approach that Utah has used in several areas including pre-kindergarten education, with fantastic results.

You all still hung up on thinking thinking a inspired program specifically designed an funded by James L. Sorensen is gonna cut 500 beds? Give me a break.

Why do you not do the grown up think an ask those involved WHY?

Here, read this instead.
https://www.theroadhome.org/blog/?p=835
https://attheu.utah.edu/facultystaff/pay-for-success/

Guess what folks. A program like this was used on 595 kids an 110 of them were at risk for not being smart enough to enter kindergarten. Only one of them failed entry exams. That is saying something with Utah's ADHD an autism problem. Almost every single one got better cause of the pay for success program worked. You know who funded it for United Way of Utah?
 
Ron Mexico said:
Looks like SLC announced where they are opening up 4 new homeless shelters in SLC neighborhoods.

https://www.sltrib.com/home/4654207-155/salt-lake-city-selects-four-sites

They are shutting down the large and at capacity road home shelter. Due to what seems like business pressure(gateway mall and renovation that were announced all around the road home). Moving the homeless shelter that holds 1,060 people in a mostly industrial business area that is well established and everyone around that area knows that the shelter was there and what the area was like and moving them to residential areas. The new shelters will hold 150 each. So we are reducing the number of beds and people that the shelters will help as well. The only good thing is that one of them is going to be a Women's only shelter.

The part that makes me very upset is that the city and mayor made the decision behind closed doors with no input. I live about 1-2 blocks away from one of these new sites. It will wreck my house value. I chose to buy a house that was not near the homeless shelters for many reasons and 1 year later they move one right next to me to help make a profit but claim it is because they are trying to help homeless people. This in no way will be better for homeless people but it will be worse for the city and a lot of peoples home value. This will make business property and city property around the old shelter worth a lot more though. I am going to put effort into stopping this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Lol.

Oh man. This is priceless. Ron Mexico, the morally superior ultra tolerant humanitarian, now desperately wanting to flee an area he chose to live in, only now because it is infected with the dirty homeless people. Because they have come to zap away his white privelage wealth that he didnt not truly earn.

Now your house can be sold at a discount to an underpaid oppressed minority. You know, the people your white skin oppresses everyday just because you exist. Its only fair that you take the loss and let someone else get a hand up.

Practice what your preach.
 
Lmao

Ron Mexico

Is..

Wait for it..

A Hobophobe


Hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha

Oh **** this just made my day. I knew the hypocrisy was in there somewhere. Its in all Liberals. You just have to wait for it to come out.
 
Lmao

Computer

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A dick
 
Computer said:
Lol.

Oh man. This is priceless. Ron Mexico, the morally superior ultra tolerant humanitarian, now desperately wanting to flee an area he chose to live in, only now because it is infected with the dirty homeless people. Because they have come to zap away his white privelage wealth that he didnt not truly earn.

Now your house can be sold at a discount to an underpaid oppressed minority. You know, the people your white skin oppresses everyday just because you exist. Its only fair that you take the loss and let someone else get a hand up.

Practice what your preach.
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What do I preach buddy?

Also helping the homeless is great. This is not helping the homeless. This is the city collaborating with big businesses in SLC to make a large chunk of money at the expense of citizens all while hurting the homeless population.

As usual you clearly are talking out your *** and no nothing about this subject.

But you can do your usual and post crap and then run away when real evidence or facts are presented.

And no, no one wants to pay 100k tax or fee for homeless people. Most people cannot afford that, including myself. That is an unfair burden to put on a small part of the cities citizens. If we spread that money out, sure that is fine. Although this whole plan is awful. This will not help the homeless at all or improve the city at all.
 
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Ron Mexico said:
What do I preach buddy?

Also helping the homeless is great. This is not helping the homeless. This is the city collaborating with big businesses in SLC to make a large chunk of money at the expense of citizens all while hurting the homeless population.

As usual you clearly are talking out your *** and no nothing about this subject.

But you can do your usual and post crap and then run away when real evidence or facts are presented.

And no, no one wants to pay 100k tax or fee for homeless people. Most people cannot afford that, including myself. That is an unfair burden to put on a small part of the cities citizens. If we spread that money out, sure that is fine. Although this whole plan is awful. This will not help the homeless at all or improve the city at all.
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I'm just merely demonstrating that this is exactly how the left reacts to anyone who tries to make a valid point about refugees or immigrants. They get to shut down the conversation by slapping a label on that person. Without having to make any solid counter arguments. You literally could just swap people out of your complaint, and your thoughts match right up with what you claim to be against.

Let me demonstrate with your last paragraph.

And no, no one wants to pay higher taxes, higher national debt or higher health premiums for immigrants and refugees. Most people cannot afford that, including myself. That is an unfair burden to put on American citizens. If we make them pay their own way that is fine. Although this whole plan is awful. This will not help immigrants and refugees at all or improve the country at all.
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What response would a statement like that receive from the left? Racist and xenophobe? We both know it. Conversation shut down. Who cares if you have a valid point.

I could do that with all your points your making in this thread. The only reason you are getting away with hobophobia (which is a real thing), is because Donald Trump wasn't first to say it and its not main stream right now. I guarantee that if this came out of the Donald's mouth, you and other people would be all over him for hobophobia.
 
Computer said:
I'm just merely demonstrating that this is exactly how the left reacts to anyone who tries to make a valid point about refugees or immigrants. They get to shut down the conversation by slapping a label on that person. Without having to make any solid counter arguments. You literally could just swap people out of your complaint, and your thoughts match right up with what you claim to be against.

Let me demonstrate with your last paragraph.



What response would a statement like that receive from the left? Racist and xenophobe? We both know it. Conversation shut down. Who cares if you have a valid point.

I could do that with all your points your making in this thread. The only reason you are getting away with hobophobia (which is a real thing), is because Donald Trump wasn't first to say it and its not main stream right now. I guarantee that if this came out of the Donald's mouth, you and other people would be all over him for hobophobia.
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NIMBY hits ever one bud. Problem these days is white guilt that tells whites they are privileged an have no say on the matters.

I know white people who do not like illegal Mexicans undercutting there wages in the Utah drywall industry. I know construction workers in Arizona that bitch the same think. I know black people living on welfare cause it is more affordable then competing with migrant workers. You think they like illegals? Hell no. But what does the media report on? White privileged an white guilt. Why? What is there angle here? Why do they not report on white lives matter when a white man gets shot? Why?
 
Boris said:
NIMBY hits ever one bud. Problem these days is white guilt that tells whites they are privileged an have no say on the matters.

I know white people who do not like illegal Mexicans undercutting there wages in the Utah drywall industry. I know construction workers in Arizona that bitch the same think. I know black people living on welfare cause it is more affordable then competing with migrant workers. You think they like illegals? Hell no. But what does the media report on? White privileged an white guilt. Why? What is there angle here? Why do they not report on white lives matter when a white man gets shot? Why?
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Please link to major media outlets most recent stories on white privilege and white guilt.

I'm expecting to see all the big names and at least a half dozen stories from the last week, since you seem to think they are reporting on that instead of other important issues.
 
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