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Do you think DM sees that and expects the same offer from us?

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Yeah... he deserves max. We won't hesitate. 5 years full max and we lock him up for the first 9 years of his career. He can't sign it until next summer, but we damned sure better offer it.
 
A year from now? Maybe. Probably. I really don't know what to expect from the Don. Maybe he comes out and publicly states that he intentionally wants to take less money so we can keep guys like Royce and Joe. Or maybe he says he wants the entire amount so he can use it to help the community. I don't see him being the type who threatens leaving if we don't give every penny possible (although we would).

In a perfect world, Donovan has an interview with somebody on ESPN called "The Selection". He uses the first half of the 30 minute program talking about how his contract to name the community areas where it will help. Then at the end, he decides to take less than the max because he knows he can raise the money between what he takes and the max to address the community areas where he wants to address.

Coming off getting the 2020 NBA Finals MVP, Donovan becomes the most popular player in the sport. Utah becomes a free agent destination where players notoriously take less than max dollar to win a title and play the game the right way.
God damn, is this a joke? lol

We'll max him ASAP and he has no reason to feel guilty or give the community a break down of how he plans to spend it.
 
I think Brantley can give us something at the 4. Wouldn't want to need to rely on him, but between Niang, Royce, Bojan, Brantley I think we are okay there. I wouldn't want to bring in someone that was in the Niang/Brantley tier just to have more bodies... it would have to be a clear upgrade... and that is difficult given that we only have minimums.
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God damn, is this a joke? lol

We'll max him ASAP and he has no reason to feel guilty or give the community a break down of how he plans to spend it.

I'm not sure... I think it is a joke. But some of these folks were the ones saying Tobias would take a paycut to come here.

Give DM the 5 year max and don't eff around with it. Maybe he takes a little less on his second huge deal if we are contenders and it allows us to add something. Him taking less doesn't change our ability to make moves at this point.
 
Yeah... he deserves max. We won't hesitate. 5 years full max and we lock him up for the first 9 years of his career. He can't sign it until next summer, but we damned sure better offer it.
I’m pushing back on this. I’d first pitch the potential of shopping in his RFA year. 2021 is a good one and Conley will be well on his way out as a player by then.

(Unless that cuts a year off the length of the contract that the Jazz can offer.)
 
I’m pushing back on this. I’d first pitch the potential of shopping in his RFA year. 2021 is a good one and Conley will be well on his way out as a player by then.

Maybe. We could have left the door open with Rudy and we didn't. Sending him to RFA and him getting a 3+1 would be not great. I also think if Conley is working out that he opts out this year and we re-sign him at a lower number but on a 3 year deal.

I'd rather forego what we can do in FA and just give him the bag... that way he isn't out there meeting with other teams and ****.
 
God damn, is this a joke? lol

We'll max him ASAP and he has no reason to feel guilty or give the community a break down of how he plans to spend it.

I never said we wouldn't give the max. I actually said we would give it immediately.

I was joking around about the nobility of one Donovan Mitchell. Some guys do take less on behalf of the team. Hell, this year...

- KD took less than the max
- Kyrie took less than the max
- Kemba took less than the max
- Butler took less money to go to a place where he wanted to be
 
Maybe. We could have left the door open with Rudy and we didn't. Sending him to RFA and him getting a 3+1 would be not great. I also think if Conley is working out that he opts out this year and we re-sign him at a lower number but on a 3 year deal.

I'd rather forego what we can do in FA and just give him the bag... that way he isn't out there meeting with other teams and ****.
Give him the choice would be my approach, then. A handshake guarantee he’ll get the max, but mentioning that delaying opens up substantial opportunity to sustain or improve the team.

Also, the Rudy situation was quite different.
 
Give him the choice would be my approach, then. A handshake guarantee he’ll get the max, but mentioning that delaying opens up substantial opportunity to sustain or improve the team.

Yeah... he's smart enough to understand it... I just think you don't eff around with him. Get too cute and it really hurts you.
 
I'm afraid if we don't plug the hole at the 4 with something more than hope that a G leaguer can give us more than expected that all of this will be for naught. We need to at least be competitive at each position. We can't be stellar at 3, solid at 1, and absolute crap at the last, with a pretty thin bench, and expect to go very far.

There's gotta be more coming, right?
 
I'm afraid if we don't plug the hole at the 4 with something more than hope that a G leaguer can give us more than expected that all of this will be for naught. We need to at least be competitive at each position. We can't be stellar at 3, solid at 1, and absolute crap at the last, with a pretty thin bench, and expect to go very far.

There's gotta be more coming, right?

Jabari Parker is the missing piece.

Its gonna happen. Then I will give an A+ to this offseason.
 
I'm afraid if we don't plug the hole at the 4 with something more than hope that a G leaguer can give us more than expected that all of this will be for naught. We need to at least be competitive at each position. We can't be stellar at 3, solid at 1, and absolute crap at the last, with a pretty thin bench, and expect to go very far.

There's gotta be more coming, right?

They're not done, but I doubt it'll be anything extravagant unless a stupidly good opportunity presents itself. More or less, with the firepower the team has now, they need a four who can simply 3D in any capacity at the vet min price. Thabo, if he returned, would be great in this capacity. That said, we aren't devoid in this area as well. As the league trends smaller and positionless, this will not be a huge concern I think. Worst case, Niang, David, or a guy like Reed can work as a stop gap.
 
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