Next Year's Cap Projected Downward

[framer]

Last year's offseason remains a blemish on the record (I won't mention the whiffs on Kanter and Burke because everybody misses on draft picks). If y'all are reading any sports beside what you see on JFC, then you'd know that every single capologist is lauding contracts signed in the past two offseasons. And the jazz had an advantage as a buyer in both markets.

This offseason has been savvy as hell, but why do we have to go all fanboy about the entire rebuild? Teams are better with smarter fans.

The problem you have is that if YOU are aware of this fact, every agent worth his salt was aware of it as well. That is why you saw the glut of 3 year contracts like Hayward signed. In fact, I almost would have been wary of the players that signed a four or five year contract knowing what was going to happen with the salary cap (Enes Kanter, cough, cough.) That sounds like someone who isn't convinced they will be on top of their game once the bank vault is busted open. It isn't an accident that next year is an incredibly lucrative free agent market. If all of those guys get signed to deals like what happened this year, that projected salary cap is going to shrink substantially.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG2dF5PS0bI

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I know what the ****ing protection is. And I know they'll be slightly better. And I noticed you didn't answer the question about who is slightly worse.

How do you manage to say so much, but also say nothing? Is this what they teach you to do in the food delivery service industry?

You clearly did not know the protection. If you read my entire post you would have seen I addressed your question.

 

[framer]

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[Handlogten's Heros]

Hayward on a 5-year.... another blemish.

bUT wAiTT!1!1!! FANBOI!!!

Hayward's agent saw it coming... I assume we did too right?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

finally, an honest voice from you. An absolutely defeated voice.

That was sarcasm. You are one of the lowest bball IQ posters on here.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Hayward on a 5-year.... another blemish.

bUT wAiTT!1!1!! FANBOI!!!

We can still acknowledge that things are pointing in the right direction even though there have been mis-steps. Jazz also extended Favors and Burks to contracts that are dirt cheap. Remember the angst around here when Burks got his extension?

I personally felt that they should have gone after guys like Lin and Biyombo last year at higher salaries than what they got, but for longer contracts. Essentially used the offseason to buy low and build a young bench. Thought the same thing about Millsap and Carroll in 2013 and Bazemore in 2014. Those all would have been good bets.

Other than that, the only big miss is letting Philly cut that cap dump deal with Sacramento - even if it was nothing more than pick swaps for 3 years. . . that would have been a good bet to make.

Overall, I'm happy with how they've handled things. They haven't been perfect, but things look pretty good and there's real reason for optimism if they can stay healthy.

 

[NAOS]

You clearly did not know the protection. If you read my entire post you would have seen I addressed your question.

let me know when you discarded whatever erroneous alternative scenario is occurring between you and me right now.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I know what the ****ing protection is. And I know they'll be slightly better. And I noticed you didn't answer the question about who is slightly worse.

How do you manage to say so much, but also say nothing? Is this what they teach you to do in the food delivery service industry?

There's no telling who will be worse at the outset. Any number of teams could get old or injured and backslide severely. Once they realize they aren't making the playoffs, epic levels of taking will ensue. Lakers won't keep the pick. The only question is how far outside of the top 3 Philly will get to use that pick. Suns totally blew that trade. For freaking Brandon Knight. There's stupid. . . and then there's this.

 

[NAOS]

We can still acknowledge that things are pointing in the right direction even though there have been mis-steps. Jazz also extended Favors and Burks to contracts that are dirt cheap. Remember the angst around here when Burks got his extension?

I personally felt that they should have gone after guys like Lin and Biyombo last year at higher salaries than what they got, but for longer contracts. Essentially used the offseason to buy low and build a young bench. Thought the same thing about Millsap and Carroll in 2013 and Bazemore in 2014. Those all would have been good bets.

Other than that, the only big miss is letting Philly cut that cap dump deal with Sacramento - even if it was nothing more than pick swaps for 3 years. . . that would have been a good bet to make.

Overall, I'm happy with how they've handled things. They haven't been perfect, but things look pretty good and there's real reason for optimism if they can stay healthy.

repped

 

[NAOS]

There's no telling who will be worse at the outset. Any number of teams could get old or injured and backslide severely. Once they realize they aren't making the playoffs, epic levels of taking will ensue. Lakers won't keep the pick. The only question is how far outside of the top 3 Philly will get to use that pick. Suns totally blew that trade. For freaking Brandon Knight. There's stupid. . . and then there's this.

I'm sure you have no problem with me thinking that the Lakers will be in the bottom three. --Because you know I'm projecting into a future with a lot of unknowns; and you probably know that I'm self-aware of doing so.

I think the Lakers will be in the bottom 3.

 

[NAOS]

That was sarcasm. You are one of the lowest bball IQ posters on here.

more of that voice. I hope you find that confidence soon. :`(

 

[NAOS]

FTR, I think the jazz have nailed this offseason. I was responding to empty-fanboy-level responses. That's it. I'm very optimistic. I'm just not polishing knobs.

 

[Stoked]

My dad can beat up your dad. Basically the tone of this argument over IQ/smarts.

The cap could hurt some of the contenders with extra tax burden. Question is will it be enough to cause them to downgrade some back up positions?

 

[NAOS]

Hayward's agent saw it coming... I assume we did too right?

fair. I hereby remove that from teh blemish record. Maybe they did offer a 5th year.

 

[framer]

I'm sure you have no problem with me thinking that the Lakers will be in the bottom three. --Because you know I'm projecting into a future with a lot of unknowns; and you probably know that I'm self-aware of doing so.

I think the Lakers will be in the bottom 3.

Sacramento is absolutely going to suck, especially after losing Rondo and probably Gay at some point. The Nets are still going to blow, And Philly isn't climbing out of that basement on the back of their rookie. I'm not sure the Heat are going to be worth a plug nickel either. Also the Hornets look to suck hard. There's five teams that could easily have worse records than the Lakers. Additionally, even if they get the 3 pick, they could get aced out in the lottery as well.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Sacramento is absolutely going to suck, especially after losing Rondo and probably Gay at some point. The Nets are still going to blow, And Philly isn't climbing out of that basement on the back of their rookie. I'm not sure the Heat are going to be worth a plug nickel either. Also the Hornets look to suck hard. There's five teams that could easily have worse records than the Lakers. Additionally, even if they get the 3 pick, they could get aced out in the lottery as well.

That was my point. This year nearly every team is making an effort to bolster their roster. It's not like in years past when it was clear who the worst was.

The Lakers have a starting 5 with potential to beat even good teams on any given night. They could easily be the worst team in the NBA, but I think they could just as easily be the 5th worst.

Certainly someone will start tanking at some point during the season once it becomes clear who has no chance at "competing" for an 8th seed. I think the Lakers desperately want to get to the 8th seed to prove to potential FA they have a capable FO, coaching staff, and incumbent roster of players. That being said I could also see them pulling the plug and just tanking too, but their FO isnt exactly competent.

 

[NAOS]

Sacramento is absolutely going to suck, especially after losing Rondo and probably Gay at some point. The Nets are still going to blow, And Philly isn't climbing out of that basement on the back of their rookie. I'm not sure the Heat are going to be worth a plug nickel either. Also the Hornets look to suck hard. There's five teams that could easily have worse records than the Lakers. Additionally, even if they get the 3 pick, they could get aced out in the lottery as well.

all possibilities. for sure. Lakers are right there. On paper, I like all the teams you mentioned better than Lakers (besides maybe SAC).

 

[NAOS]

They could easily be the worst team in the NBA, but I think they could just as easily be the 5th worst.

but you'll cry on a message board when someone thinks they'll be bottom 3. Okee, buddie.

 

[Maneesh]

I just came to say here that I know I have more BBall Iq than everone! Infinity!

 

[One Brow]

The cap for the 2017 offseason was expected by some to reach up to $110 million with teams highly anticipating the second substantial increase. The reason for the drop in cap is due to the unexpected rise in salaries.

I can't believe no one has pointed out how stupid this is. The amount of salary being paid out has zero effect on the salary cap. The cap comes from BRI (basketball-related income), which includes tickets, TV, merchandise, etc. Expenses (like salaries) are *not* a factor in BRI.