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NFL 2015 Season Discussion Thread

Stoked said:
If I had to chose it would come down to Brady or Montana IMO. But all those names are elite.
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I probably should have included troy aikman in my list too.
He gets no credit. He probably did have the best supporting cast of anybody though. Maybe best O-line of all time, great defense, top three or four running back of all time, an all time great at wide receiver, and a good tight end and full back.
Those dallas teams were stacked
 
Stoked said:
Pats have been good for around a decade, consistently. Ever single season. Spygate and Deflatgate and all the gates not withstanding.

I never hold much stock in "*" wins. they still won and beat everyone else. That goes for the Spurs chip in the lockout year. No one else rose up and took it. But I still think they are a shady org. Always will be in my eyes.

Having said that. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA suck it Brady. He took the most punishment a QB has taken in any NFL game since 2006. That Denver D line is killer. Ware, Miller, Wolfe, Sly, Harris, Talib, Ward, Stewart, Marshall, Jackson and Trevathan. oh man, killers. The pro bowl should have just taken the Denver D and made them the AFC defense.

Kubiak tried to run out the 2nd half. And the Denver O gift wrapped a TD (missed FG lol) for Brady. So the Denver D gave up only 12 points to the Patriots IMO (the other 6 is on the O).
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I'm not trying to diminish what the Denver D did but that offensive line was trash and has been most the season. The D still would have gotten pressure on Brady but not to the level they did had Brady been behind a solid(non duct taped o-line). To argue otherwise is foolish.
 
Red Jazz Fan said:
I'm not trying to diminish what the Denver D did but that offensive line was trash and has been most the season. The D still would have gotten pressure on Brady but not to the level they did had Brady been behind a solid(non duct taped o-line). To argue otherwise is foolish.
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True and if Manning wasn't nursing a slow banged up body it would have been 34-12. If if if...
 
Stoked said:
True and if Manning wasn't nursing a slow banged up body it would have been 34-12. If if if...
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No that post wasn't even true. The Broncos defense, especially the pass rush, was elite that game and has been all year regardless of what O-line they go up against.

The defense is the reason that the Broncos game a chance at a superbowl

The pats and Brady did just fine the week before against another "good" defense. The difference is that the bronco defense isn't simply good
 
fishonjazz said:
No that post wasn't even true. The Broncos defense, especially the pass rush, was elite that game and has been all year regardless of what O-line they go up against.

The defense is the reason that the Broncos game a chance at a superbowl

The pats and Brady did just fine the week before against another "good" defense. The difference is that the bronco defense isn't simply good
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It is true to a point. The Denver D and D line is elite. They have been blasting teams and QBs all season. Leading in sacks and 3rd in rush D. They are brutal. No taking away or lessening that at all. But a better O line would have helped.

Like Carolina. It will all be decided by the front lines. If Denver replicates this against the better Caroline O line then Denver wins. Completely possible and plausible.

If the Carolina O line stops the QB pressure than the Panthers win. Completely plausible and possible.
 
fishonjazz said:
No that post wasn't even true. The Broncos defense, especially the pass rush, was elite that game and has been all year regardless of what O-line they go up against.

The defense is the reason that the Broncos game a chance at a superbowl

The pats and Brady did just fine the week before against another "good" defense. The difference is that the bronco defense isn't simply good
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Broncos won because Patriots have an easier time cheating at home and cant do ish on the road vs Manning. Hopefully Peyton gave Brady some Papa John coupons to ease the pain.
 
Broncster said:
So your whole argument is that he has more Super Bowl wins? That is a weak argument, there is a lot more that goes into winning than 1 player. I need more than that. When did the scandal about spygate come out? thats when they stopped taping and thats when they stopped winning. Manning is 3-2 in head to head matches and beats Brady in every applicable statistic to QBs.

I didnt assume you were a Pats fan just said you were skewed. But being a Phili fan doesnt help your argument much.
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You're a complete clown. You don't even know when Spygate happened and you're going to talk about it as if it's Gospel. Spygate was in 2007. Since then the Pats have gone:

11-5
10-6
14-2
13-3
12-4
12-4
12-4
12-4

Don't bother replying because your opinion on Brady, the Pats and football is meaningless to me at this point.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
You're a complete clown. You don't even know when Spygate happened and you're going to talk about it as if it's Gospel. Spygate was in 2007. Since then the Pats have gone:

11-5
10-6
14-2
13-3
12-4
12-4
12-4
12-4

Don't bother replying because your opinion on Brady, the Pats and football is meaningless to me at this point.
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Thanks for proving my point. The only super bowl win post spygate is the deflategate year.

Manning had good regular season records every year as well. Except the season he missed due to injury and his team was terrible, really terrible. The season Brady missed to injury his team played pretty well. They set a record for best team ever to miss the playoffs. But he was backed up by a great qb that set the league on fire after right? Nothing to do with a great team and good system.

I said Brady is in my top 5 qbs all time. He is just below Manning. Haven't heard any argument why not from you besides name calling and more super bowl wins. So the best in every sport is simply who wins the most championships? I guess Parker is head and shoulders a way better PG than Stockton.

Sorry to respond after you asked not to. It's just too easy. But...

Don't bother responding either. You have no argument. Just keep calling names and think it's helping you sound cool.

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