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then why did you mention contracts?

btw, I tend to agree with you, but I've never done that comparison or read an article about it.

Well in the NBA if you sign a player to a bad deal, it's fully guaranteed.

In the NFL if you sign a player, they are all partially guaranteed to some degree, so escaping toxic deals is much easier.


In the NBA a bad contract can really handicap your team's ability to turn around a franchise and contend. How much better would the Jazz have been if we could have cut AK and recouped some money to sign a quality starting quality wing?
 
Well in the NBA if you sign a player to a bad deal, it's fully guaranteed.

In the NFL if you sign a player, they are all partially guaranteed to some degree, so escaping toxic deals is much easier.


In the NBA a bad contract can really handicap your team's ability to turn around a franchise and contend. How much better would the Jazz have been if we could have cut AK and recouped some money to sign a quality starting quality wing?

gotcha. But I don't think that's a direct cause of more parity.

You could argue that AK's contract was good for league parity, since the jazz had recently been dominant.
 
Yeah, but if parity is different teams being able to compete at equal levels, then limiting a teams ability to operate from a managerial level should limit parity since it then relies more heavily on the ability of the players to influence outcomes (and puts more emphasis on FO errors). In the NFL managers can have a bigger impact with (or at least more impacts) with cutting/signing to effect the ability of their team.

Does the Jazz signing AK increase parity for other teams? Or does it create a bad precedent for other contracts, so more teams get locked into mediocrity while the few elite teams who have stars (who are impossible to overpay) succeed?
 
Yeah, but if parity is different teams being able to compete at equal levels, then limiting a teams ability to operate from a managerial level should limit parity since it then relies more heavily on the ability of the players to influence outcomes (and puts more emphasis on FO errors). In the NFL managers can have a bigger impact with (or at least more impacts) with cutting/signing to effect the ability of their team.

Does the Jazz signing AK increase parity for other teams? Or does it create a bad precedent for other contracts, so more teams get locked into mediocrity while the few elite teams who have stars (who are impossible to overpay) succeed?

I don't think you're using good reasoning. Just because the turnover in the NFL happens at a faster rate, that doesn't mean that the odds of parity are increased. Better-than-average teams will sign better contracts in either situation. Just because a team is able to reboot faster, doesn't mean it will. In either situation, if a bad team signs bad contracts, then they'll continue to be bad. Etc.
 
I don't think you're using good reasoning. Just because the turnover in the NFL happens at a faster rate, that doesn't mean that the odds of parity are increased. Better-than-average teams will sign better contracts in either situation. Just because a team is able to reboot faster, doesn't mean it will. In either situation, if a bad team signs bad contracts, then they'll continue to be bad. Etc.

Well my reasoning was never that this was the only, or even the main reason behind parity. I just think it's a factor that helps increase it.
 
Well my reasoning was never that this was the only, or even the main reason behind parity. I just think it's a factor that helps increase it.

and I have an open mind about it. But, you've failed to convince me. Anything you've posted in the way of a specific example is just as easily used as evidence in the opposite argument.
 
when I said I "tend to agree with you" re: contracts, I thought you were referring to the free-agency era of the NFL. I've always thought that helped parity, but I haven't seen it thoroughly studied. I'm sure it has been.

These kind of arguments require statistical support, in my opinion. Your rationale has further convinced me of that necessity.
 
Since 1995, the NFL has had 13 franchises win a Super Bowl.

The NBA has had 9 franchises win a title.

MLB has had 10 franchises win a World Series.

So, I was wrong. NFL has had the most parody.

Good for the NFL.
 
Since 1995, the NFL has had 13 franchises win a Super Bowl.

The NBA has had 9 franchises win a title.

MLB has had 10 franchises win a World Series.

So, I was wrong. NFL has had the most parody.

Good for the NFL.

*parity

IB4 Colton
 
Well, my Falcons won again, to go to 6-1.....but played so poorly that they will probably drop 3 spots in the "Power Rankings" this week! How did your team do?
 
This is the first time in NFL history that 5 teams have gone 6-0. Pats, Packers, Panthers, Bengals and Broncos.

Not week it will be whittled down to at least 4 as it is Packers @ Broncos.

Unless the Broncos O gets it's act together over this bye week it is going to be a rough game.
 
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