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Nick Sciria's breakdown of Portland vs. Utah (detailed)

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https://twitter.com/Nick_Sciria/status/791344840634228736


take home points for me:

- George Hill's defence was incredible
- offence didn't look great out there w/o Hayward or Favors-- <40% of our buckets were uncontested while >60% of Portland buckets were uncontested
- Gobert made some questionable moves in the P&R against Lillard. Game tape will help-- and other than Curry I'm not sure there's a tougher cover in the P&R
- their bench was better than our 3rd-stringers

Lots of video included with his tweets. Also, it turns out that the live-ball air-snatch by Hill was done when we were down 13 in the 2nd quarter. Huge moment in the game
 
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It seems like there is no solution to guard Lillard. Lillard can easily blow by Gobert on a switch, and will pop the 3 if Gobert drops back even a little.
We thought Hill's length over Burke's might let him recover in these type of situations but no evidence of that.
So let's play coach, watch the first 3 clips, what can be done?
 
Jazz4ever said:
It seems like there is no solution to guard Lillard. Lillard can easily blow by Gobert on a switch, and will pop the 3 if Gobert drops back even a little.
We thought Hill's length over Burke's might let him recover in these type of situations but no evidence of that.
So let's play coach, watch the first 3 clips, what can be done?
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Rudy didn't get blown by on every switch, mind you. There was a lot of times that Rudy met Damian at the rim, but Damian prevailed (he shot 7/8 within 5 feet that night).

I think you just need to have more height and size down there-- the combo of Favors and Rudy is probably the only solution down there and you have to hope that when Fav goes in to play helf defence, Rudy has the quickness to recover and contest a shot from Derrick's old man in case Damian hands it off right before meeting Favors at the rim
 
I think Derrick at the 5 if Rudy 110% can't guard Damian is your only option that we have as a team. Fortunately Portland's 4s aren't offensive powerhouses so either Hayward, Ingles, or Lyles could probably keep them in check
 
dalamon said:
Rudy didn't get blown by on every switch, mind you. There was a lot of times that Rudy met Damian at the rim, but Damian prevailed (he shot 7/8 within 5 feet that night).

I think you just need to have more height and size down there-- the combo of Favors and Rudy is probably the only solution down there and you have to hope that when Fav goes in to play helf defence, Rudy has the quickness to recover and contest a shot from Derrick's old man in case Damian hands it off right before meeting Favors at the rim
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I thought Rudy was undersssertive at the rim. Looked like he was avoiding foul trouble. Portland was hot an Dame made some pretty crazy shots. Nothing you can do about either.
 
George Hill's defense was bothersome, at times, but far from incredible. Lillard scored 39 points on 65% from the field.
 
Jazz4ever said:
It seems like there is no solution to guard Lillard. Lillard can easily blow by Gobert on a switch, and will pop the 3 if Gobert drops back even a little.
We thought Hill's length over Burke's might let him recover in these type of situations but no evidence of that.
So let's play coach, watch the first 3 clips, what can be done?
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Well, for starters, if a screen is being set 5 feet beyond the 3-point line, you go under, not over, the screen. (Although, it would help if the refs would call illegal screens.)

2nd, if a PnR is being set 35 feet from the basket, you don't use your center to cover it; switch and use the PF or SF.
 
There were 2 other options Quin could have gone two.

1) Trap the pick and roll. The Clippers had a great deal of success doing this until their entire team got injured last year.When the pick is set that high, trap the ball handler and his only option to pass is the big man. It would have given Portland a 4 on 3, but this is a 4 on 3 with their big (Ed Davis) with the ball in a non threatening area of the floor. Mason Plumlee is very good in the short roll, but they weren't playing him. Ed Davis has no ball handling/playmaking skills. This is the option I would have gone with.

2) Reduce the ball pressure. The reason why Portland is setting the screen so high is so that they can ensure an effective screen on George Hill. The Jazz play Ice coverage on pick and rolls, but it doesn't work when the picks are set 40 feet from the basket. If a pick is being set that high, they should have scrapped the coverage and had George Hill back up to the three point line. Giving Dame free roam anywhere on the court is dangerous, but I'd much rather give him space 40 ft from the basket than giving him space at the three point line with a full head of steam. This requires a lot of communication to work, but Quin should have at least tried it. At the very least, it would have thrown them off a bit. Stotts did this to us by finding a creative way to switch and stalled our offense.
 
dalamon said:
I think Derrick at the 5 if Rudy 110% can't guard Damian is your only option that we have as a team. Fortunately Portland's 4s aren't offensive powerhouses so either Hayward, Ingles, or Lyles could probably keep them in check
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No but they're all trained now to hit the 3 or at least the corner 3. There in lies the problem and why they're our living nightmare.
 
Ellipse said:
Well, for starters, if a screen is being set 5 feet beyond the 3-point line, you go under, not over, the screen. (Although, it would help if the refs would call illegal screens.)

2nd, if a PnR is being set 35 feet from the basket, you don't use your center to cover it; switch and use the PF or SF.
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At very least we needed to adjust coverages so they didn't know exactly what was coming. Going under would have been a solid option with how they were playing.
 
Jazz4ever said:
No but they're all trained now to hit the 3 or at least the corner 3. There in lies the problem and why they're our living nightmare.
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Yes but I would live with Aminu hitting shots over Lillard especially when he is on fire.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
At very least we needed to adjust coverages so they didn't know exactly what was coming. Going under would have been a solid option with how they were playing.
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Going under would be the same result, a pull up 3 by Lillard. Really hard to go under on a high screen against a player like that because you can't give him any space at any time so when the screen is called out, it's nearly impossible to go under and recover to contest any shot.
 
tonstermits said:
Lillard was feeling it its always going to be tough stopping him I think the big issue was letting Crabbe and Vonleh do so much damage

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I think this is pretty much it - Lillard got some good looks but he was killing it either way. He ran up Gobert's chest on 3 dribble drives and scored every time. I doubt Rudy running out to defend 3pt line on a PNR would have helped much either. Sometimes you just got to tip your hat.

My bet is Lillard wins MVP this year - I know if he played Utah every night he'd probably re-write the record books.
 
dalamon said:
...Rudy has the quickness to recover and contest a shot from Derrick's old man in case Damian hands it off right before meeting Favors at the rim
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Wow, who knew his dad was even in the NBA? But i would certainly hope Rudy would be quick enough to defend him.
 
Ellipse said:
if a PnR is being set 35 feet from the basket, you don't use your center to cover it; switch and use the PF or SF.
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The man Gobert is covering is setting the pick. So unless you want Gobert covering the 3 or 4, this is not viable.
 
silesian said:
The man Gobert is covering is setting the pick. So unless you want Gobert covering the 3 or 4, this is not viable.
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Depends on who the other personnel are. Gobert would handle Ed Davis, Vonleh or Leonard better than Lillard IMO.
 
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