Could be. Just remember who Jazz have drafted recently.
Suton
Koufos
Snyder
Humphries
Almond
Jazz have down worse than Davis
No clue what the Jazz are going to do in this draft
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Could be. Just remember who Jazz have drafted recently.
Suton
Koufos
Snyder
Humphries
Almond
Jazz have down worse than Davis
CAE15
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Suton was a 2nd round pick and in todays NBA those players are far from guaranteed.
Koufos was a luxury pick, PBA with a high enough potential.
Snyder slid down the board and the jazz scooped him up.
Humphries was a mistake pick for sure over al jefferson(who we considered)
Almond was all O and no D, i think utah was hoping belineli would be there.
So this tells us jazz could draft BPA. aminu should he slide down the board. A whiteside who has the potential to be a defensive force. So I agree with the OP that we have not a clue who utah is going to take. Should be a fun draft. All things considered i hope we trade up for cousins and not monroe but the lack of workout worries me on that.
Koufos was a luxury pick, PBA with a high enough potential.
Snyder slid down the board and the jazz scooped him up.
Humphries was a mistake pick for sure over al jefferson(who we considered)
Almond was all O and no D, i think utah was hoping belineli would be there.
So this tells us jazz could draft BPA. aminu should he slide down the board. A whiteside who has the potential to be a defensive force. So I agree with the OP that we have not a clue who utah is going to take. Should be a fun draft. All things considered i hope we trade up for cousins and not monroe but the lack of workout worries me on that.
My point was more about being willing to move Koufos, assuming anyone wants him, and because he's actually still under contract.
Koufos was #16 the year before.... yikes
It's true. If the Jazz want to draft someone who can come in and break into the starting line up soon, they'd draft a shooting guard like George or Henry. Then they could pick up a back-up PF/C with more length than Millsap later in the draft or through free agency. As Krazee pointed out, there are some big inside players like Poindexter late in this draft. If the Jazz can't get skilled length like Monroe, Cousins or (I maintain) Whiteside, they can get defensive size later in the draft.
The Jazz do have Okur, Fess and Tomic lined up for the C spot, which makes me wonder if drafting Aldrich would make much of a difference in the long run.
At the end of the day, I think the Jazz are going to be opportunistic with this lottery pick, try to move up in the draft if they can, and get the best player available--either a big or a wing. If the Jazz were able to get a player like Cousins, I think they'd let Okur expire at the end of the year and justify the pick as their starting-caliber center of the future. If they got Aminu or Babbit, they would think about moving AK or not re-signing him. If they draft George or Henry, we'd have a real shooting guard for the first time in about 10 years.
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There's a rumor floating on the Sacramento Kings' board that if Cousins is not available at the #5 pick, the Kings would likely trade the pick and the Jazz are trying to work out a deal for it. I would assume the Jazz's target would be Wesley Johnson, although it could be Monroe or maybe Aminu.
Just a rumor, not sure how substantiated.
Just a rumor, not sure how substantiated.
Jazz4ever
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Its not worth trading up to 5 for Monroe or Johnson, basically its Cousins or bust.
CAE15
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Monroe i agree. But either johnson or cousins is worth it to me to move up to 5. Johnson isn't really what the jazz need persay but he is in a higher tier then monroe,henry,aminu,aldrich. If the Jazz have a chance to get johnson or cousins they should jump at it. That being said pretty sure johnson is going to minnesota.
Just because the Jazz didn't work out Cousins doesn't mean they are not interested in him. The Jazz have a history of drafting players they didn't work out. I believe Brewer and Koufos are two examples. Perhaps they brought Monroe in because they feel they have a good chance that Monroe would still be on the board at 9 while the Jazz feel they have the goods to move up to get Cousins. So why bring him in because Cousins has been projected at a top 5 guy since the draft started while Monroe has been projected to be there when the Jazz pick.
I am a big fan of Pittman and Jerome Jordan. Jordan played against Whiteside and had 19 pts 13 rebounds plus a few blocks so I think he is a steal at the top of the second round or lower first. I believe Foote just signed a contract to play in Europe.
Well you are entitled to your opinion but Jordan has some skills and he has a lot of the same qualities of Whiteside who is being projected anywhere from 12 to 22. I just do not see much difference in the two players. If I could get a similiar player at 38-45 to a player at 12 then its a no brainer. Besides Jordan certainly seems like he is better equipped to play in the NBA than Whiteside simply because he is mature with some skills.
Whiteside played forward at Marshall in a 3-2 zone defense most often. He also typically roamed and helped on 'D'. One guy scoring isn't all on him.
Then I guess you missed the workout Whiteside just had with Monroe in Sacramento, which was basically called a wash.
When you're getting killed in the post, you have to man up. It was Jordan vs. Whiteside straight up and it looked like Shaq against Olive Oil. BPG is a good defensive stat, but it most certainly doesn't tell the whole story. Especially if a guy can't contain his own assignment at all (even in a mid-major conference in the NCAA).
Whiteside can't be KG because KG is tough and brilliant (Whiteside is weak and dumb) and Camby is an overrated player. Whiteside would be lucky to be anything close to either. If he gets his **** into a weight-room and finds some kind of mental toughness somewhere, look out. That just doesn't happen too frequently, though. I'm going off on a tangent, though.
Darkwing Duck
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Look what happened when Blair went against Thabeet in college. Blair went for like 25 and 10 and dominated Thabeet. And we know who had the better rookie year despite being picked 40 spots lower. I definitely agree with you in wanting to avoid Whiteside anywhere near the lottery.
Would be a decent gamble in the 20's, though.
mellow
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The Jazz have done a good job of keeping things mixed up. Rumours that the Jazz want to move up, rumours the jazz love Davis, or Babbit at #9, and Rumours about the Jazz drafting in the 20's possibly buying a pick and possibly trading down. Nice work KOC on covering all the bases and keeping the competition guessing.
This draft pick is just the begining of the offseason, but it should reveal the direction teh jazz are heading. The big question is reload or add a piece and keep the Boozer, Okur, Ak Milslap front court together.
If they stay at #9 and draft a pf then I expect big changes this summer.
This draft pick is just the begining of the offseason, but it should reveal the direction teh jazz are heading. The big question is reload or add a piece and keep the Boozer, Okur, Ak Milslap front court together.
If they stay at #9 and draft a pf then I expect big changes this summer.
Keep in mind that Whiteside was a freshman giving up 25 lbs. against a senior. He still had decent numbers himself in the games against Tulsa-- 14/10/6 and 17/9/4. He seemed to hold his ground pretty well in the video I saw. I think Whiteside projects to be a PF in the NBA.