NON-JAZZ NBA PLAYOFF thread

[LogGrad98]

I know this is gonna sound crazy, but he's ~36, seen it all, and done it all as a player in the league. I'm sure he's at a point where he's not interested in burning anymore wax than he has to, and he's not interested in slogging it through bad ****.

I couldn't tell anyone why he couldn't wait a couple of minutes, that's a new low. I'm honestly not totally sure why I'm making this post, except that he's human, I guess.

Yeah but he's kind of been this way for his entire career. As soon as he saw it would be a lot of work to get there in Cleveland, he noped on out of there to build a stacked team in Miami. As soon as Miami was winding down and he saw that Cleveland had used the high draft picks from their inevitable fall after his exit to retool he moves back there to yet another stacked team. Cleveland winding down? Time to move to LA to bring in another stacked team. Injury to key player? Why try then, time to bail early in the 4th instead of support the team he is supposedly the leader of. Sure he's a human and he wants it easy, I get it. But I also know what he is being paid to be a baby when he doesn't get his stacked team. So **** him. Stand up and be a man and actually do the job you are being paid to do.

By the way it isn't just leaving early in the 4th quarter. He basically didn't show up at all for this game. And the is far from the first time in his career he has just taken plays or games off because suddenly they are hard.

Yes yes many players do, it's human nature, blah blah blah. If he wants to be considered as the best, then man up and play even when you might not have the easy road to the ring in front of you. Otherwise, he's just a diva.

 

[Abitbol]

Final score in sports is meaningless and should not count.

Last nights Blazers v Nuggets game once again proves that the final score of a sporting event is the most ridiculous thing to look at in order to see who won. When that game ended, the referee should have stood at center court and pointed to the Blazers bench - they win. End of story, everybody goes home happy.

Blazers were down by double digits numerous times (including in an OT), Blazers twice tied the game on a buzzer beater, Lillard with his record setting performance was the best player out there....when the clock ran out the refs should have consulted and raised the Blazers' hands -- tonight's winner. You accept that format in boxing, why not in basketball?

No real sports fan looks at the final score. I never once look at the score when my teams play. It's stupid. The score is for people who don't know sports. Below is a picture of the way last night's game went to every thinking sports fan. Portland is the guy with the blue gloves. Portland is now up 3-2 in the series.

Hey, you made a few mistakes in your post. You wrote several times "Blazers", instead of writing "Lilliard". I let you edit your post...

 

[fishonjazz]

I've had to concede because he's won championships, but he quits when it gets hard in the playoffs. He just does.

Sure, if he can cruise to a trophy he'll do it. He'll even be a massive performer getting there. But when it doesn't look good, when it gets real hard, when it becomes an uphill battle, LeBron James packs up his **** and goes home. That's who he is.

On the other hand, and I could be wrong or mis-remembering, I think his team was down big on a series once (down 3-1 I think) and he didn't quit. Instead he played his *** off and they came back and won the series. Might have been in the finals even.

Again, I might be wrong but it seems like that happened.

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[fishonjazz]

Yeah but he's kind of been this way for his entire career. As soon as he saw it would be a lot of work to get there in Cleveland, he noped on out of there to build a stacked team in Miami. As soon as Miami was winding down and he saw that Cleveland had used the high draft picks from their inevitable fall after his exit to retool he moves back there to yet another stacked team. Cleveland winding down? Time to move to LA to bring in another stacked team. Injury to key player? Why try then, time to bail early in the 4th instead of support the team he is supposedly the leader of. Sure he's a human and he wants it easy, I get it. But I also know what he is being paid to be a baby when he doesn't get his stacked team. So **** him. Stand up and be a man and actually do the job you are being paid to do.

By the way it isn't just leaving early in the 4th quarter. He basically didn't show up at all for this game. And the is far from the first time in his career he has just taken plays or games off because suddenly they are hard.

Yes yes many players do, it's human nature, blah blah blah. If he wants to be considered as the best, then man up and play even when you might not have the easy road to the ring in front of you. Otherwise, he's just a diva.

Eh, he saw it was going to be a lot of work in Cleveland and went back there.
Then left for a crappy Lakers team that plays in a much tougher conference.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

****** move by Lebron. He’s done this before, but he’s not a quitter and doesn’t bail as soon as things are hard. This is a tough look as a leader and that’s where he’s had his failings imo. Kobe had some of the same problems.

I don’t think they are done... unless AD is out. With Lebron you don’t plan his funeral until the body is dead.

 

[Mongoose]

Yeah but he's kind of been this way for his entire career. As soon as he saw it would be a lot of work to get there in Cleveland, he noped on out of there to build a stacked team in Miami. As soon as Miami was winding down and he saw that Cleveland had used the high draft picks from their inevitable fall after his exit to retool he moves back there to yet another stacked team. Cleveland winding down? Time to move to LA to bring in another stacked team. Injury to key player? Why try then, time to bail early in the 4th instead of support the team he is supposedly the leader of. Sure he's a human and he wants it easy, I get it. But I also know what he is being paid to be a baby when he doesn't get his stacked team. So **** him. Stand up and be a man and actually do the job you are being paid to do.

By the way it isn't just leaving early in the 4th quarter. He basically didn't show up at all for this game. And the is far from the first time in his career he has just taken plays or games off because suddenly they are hard.

Yes yes many players do, it's human nature, blah blah blah. If he wants to be considered as the best, then man up and play even when you might not have the easy road to the ring in front of you. Otherwise, he's just a diva.

Plus LeBron is a terrible GM and he leaves teams holding the bag after he demands players be brought in or let go.

 

[LogGrad98]

Eh, he saw it was going to be a lot of work in Cleveland and went back there.
Then left for a crappy Lakers team that plays in a much tougher conference.

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Cleveland had everything it needed except a star and then he retooled it. Same in LA, by bringing in Davis. Bron will only play on stacked teams.

 

[LogGrad98]

On the other hand, and I could be wrong or mis-remembering, I think his team was down big on a series once (down 3-1 I think) and he didn't quit. Instead he played his *** off and they came back and won the series. Might have been in the finals even.

Again, I might be wrong but it seems like that happened.

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Yes his one shining achievement was the victory against the warriors. Down 3-1 they rallied to win it. Give him full credit there. If course it was a stacked team that got him to the finals, and the one place he just isn't going to quit is the finals.

 

[fishonjazz]

Cleveland had everything it needed except a star and then he retooled it. Same in LA, by bringing in Davis. Bron will only play on stacked teams.

He went to lakers before Davis though. And they gave up a ton to get Davis. He didn't join a team with stars already on it.
Same with Cleveland. They needed a star. He didn't join Steph Klay and Draymond.

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[fishonjazz]

Yes his one shining achievement was the victory against the warriors. Down 3-1 they rallied to win it. Give him full credit there. If course it was a stacked team that got him to the finals, and the one place he just isn't going to quit is the finals.

I disagree about it being a stacked team. They were finals worthy because they had lebron. No LeBron on the Cleveland team and they don't sniff the finals.

I mean any team with prime LeBron on it is basically stacked because he is that good.

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[NUMBERICA]

I’m happy to take on anyone that helps the team, even heels. The problem with Ainge is he did a bad job. Maybe a historically bad job. He built this incredible horde of assets and absolutely wasted them after 2017. Part of that, as I understand it, is that other execs didn’t want to work with a dude more interested in winning every trade instead of making an effort to be equitable in his dealings.

Add that to our FO who already have too many cooks in the kitchen and badly bungled last off-season on the margins (about as bad as they could’ve, even if on the margins), and this idea makes less than no sense.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I know that as fans, we want our teams to have a chance and part of that is league parity. But players are not (just) fans. They get to play in the league for a fraction of their lives, and I have a tough time absolutely faulting them for trying to play on the best teams possible and I’m positive all of us would at least be strongly tempted to improve their individual situations as well.