Game Thread Nov 01, 2023 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Grizzlies

[Udidthizz]

I feel like Olynyk travels 27 times per game and they only call it once or twice. LOL. I especially love his patented "I'm dribbling and looking to make a pass, but the window suddenly closes when I pick up the ball, so I take five steps to not fall on my face" move.

I think part of it is that he does these moves in extreme slow motion. Maybe it hypnotizes the refs or something.

 

[hgb]

- I feel like Olynyk travels 27 times per game and they only call it once or twice. LOL. I especially love his patented "I'm dribbling and looking to make a pass, but the window suddenly closes when I pick up the ball, so I take five steps to not fall on my face" move. By the way, Kelly has low key been on fire from the perimeter. He's shooting 40% but taking only a ridiculous 1.3 shots per game. What's up with that? He needs at least four. Clarkson, on the other hand, is stinking it up by launching 4.3 bombs per game and hitting only 29%. This is on Hardy, he has to get things like this under control. Even Collins is taking 3.5 perimeter shots, on similarly nasty sub-30 accuracy.

It's not like they want Jordan to stop shooting, that would be stupid. Also feels like a weird complaint after the game he goes 4/6 from deep (and Kelly took 4 3s).

 

[Tremendous Upside]

It's not like they want Jordan to stop shooting, that would be stupid. Also feels like a weird complaint after the game he goes 4/6 from deep (and Kelly took 4 3s).

As a team, we should be finding ways to create looks for our best outside shooters. I don't think that's very controversial.

You can look at a microscopic sample if you want, but the biggest reg season sample we have is 5 games now, and Olynyk should be shooting more and some of the guards less. All I'm saying.

 

[hgb]

As a team, we should be finding ways to create looks for our best outside shooters. I don't think that's very controversial.

You can look at a microscopic sample if you want, but the biggest reg season sample we have is 5 games now, and Olynyk should be shooting more and some of the guards less. All I'm saying.

5 games is a pretty small sample size too, but I agree KO should shoot more. I don't think Clarkson should be shooting less, though. He's shooting 4.5 threes per game these 5 games, now at 39%. Clarkson's other strengths (facilitating) diminish if he isn't a constant threat to shoot.

 

[fishonjazz]

To be fair, Cam and Jarace really aren’t getting burn either.

Jarace has 18 total mins and 12 came in a 50 point blowout loss for the Pacers tonight.

Yep. Cam with a dnp last night. Black has had multiple dnp’s as well. I have yet to see jhs name pop up in a box score either.


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[fishonjazz]

Random observations:

- Man, Ja really killed his team. It's not like they haven't played well without him before (even for long stretches), but this is somehow different. They just look deflated and hopeless. They're really missing Adams' leadership and defense, and Marcus Smart looks like he hates his life. I just can't see a turnaround for this team until they get Morant back. Taylor Jenkins may yet become a sacrificial lamb.

- I feel like Olynyk travels 27 times per game and they only call it once or twice. LOL. I especially love his patented "I'm dribbling and looking to make a pass, but the window suddenly closes when I pick up the ball, so I take five steps to not fall on my face" move. By the way, Kelly has low key been on fire from the perimeter. He's shooting 40% but taking only a ridiculous 1.3 shots per game. What's up with that? He needs at least four. Clarkson, on the other hand, is stinking it up by launching 4.3 bombs per game and hitting only 29%. This is on Hardy, he has to get things like this under control. Even Collins is taking 3.5 perimeter shots, on similarly nasty sub-30 accuracy.

- Something to keep an eye on: we allowed the Grizz to "guard" Lauri with various small guys (Marcus Smart, among others) far from the basket without trying to exploit it even once. Lauri did make some cuts inside and sealed his midget defender after recognizing the mismatch, but we never attempted entry passes. This is one thing where the current "big frontcourt" really hurts us. When both Kessler and a 29% shooting Collins are out there, the lane stays clogged and it's hard to find the space to exploit gimmick defenses like this. IMO Olynyk should take Kessler's starting spot for the time being. We need spacing there in the worst way.

- Dunn seems to know his days on the regular rotation are numbered. He looked just as deflated as the Grizzlies.

- Is Ochai playing himself into the G-League?

Ochai played well last night. Finally got some threes to drop.
Lauri was fed in the post multiple times after sealing a smaller defender. Then a double team would come and he passed out and a teammate got a good shot that usually went in.


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[Handlogten's Heros]

That was more like it. My preseason prediction that the Grizz are in trouble is real. Just can’t have that many injuries at one position AND have Ja out… not having Jones hurts. Next 2-3 games Grizz need to pick up some wins or it gets late early.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also remember: Hardy is playing Keyonte minutes. He's not anti-rookie. He's anti playing you if he thinks you dont deserve minutes.

And it's not like Keyonte goes out there and plays mistake free flawless ball. so it's not like the bar is incredibly high to earn his trust.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

That was more like it. My preseason prediction that the Grizz are in trouble is real. Just can’t have that many injuries at one position AND have Ja out… not having Jones hurts. Next 2-3 games Grizz need to pick up some wins or it gets late early.

Your prediction came before the Adams thing, right?

Plus Aldama went down at the end of the pre-season.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also kind of surprised Laravia hasnt made any kind of 2nd year jump and looks regressed. I thought he would be a good piece for them.

Roddy looks OK. Ziaire looks OK. The young dudes Memphis has invested in dont look like roleplaying game changers for them. Maybe Aldama gets there.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Your prediction came before the Adams thing, right?

Plus Aldama went down at the end of the pre-season.

I was skeptical pre-Adam’s injury but what that happened I thought they were a play in team. Might have been too high. There are just too many unproven guys they are relying on. Also JJJ and Smart will miss 10 or so games at some point.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Also kind of surprised Laravia hasnt made any kind of 2nd year jump and looks regressed. I thought he would be a good piece for them.

Roddy looks OK. Ziaire looks OK. The young dudes Memphis has invested in dont look like roleplaying game changers for them. Maybe Aldama gets there.

You can have a couple of those types playing 15 minute roles until the get better but having one as a starter and like 4-5 more in the rotation isn’t good. Like when an Aldama injury messes everything up then you were too thin to start with… at least compared to how they were talked about.