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"Obama has now fired more cruise missiles than all other Nobel Peace Prize winners combined."

Originally Posted by One Brow
When you vouch for an answer, and suggest it aqs being accurate, you taking part in the noissucsid.

Dammit, Big Fundy, just when I thought I had pounded this nail as far into the board as it would go, you come along outdoing me with your future readin'.

I have no idea what you mean here. You endorsed a position, I called you out on it. No future-think, simple action-evaluate-respond. If you forgot you endorsed a view, go back and check. In comment #150 in this thread you say a poster who does not believe the five worst dictators of all time lived in the 20th century would prefer to have been raped than get his Pearling. In #163 you specifically endorse another posters position that the five worst have been in the 20th century, but neither you nor LogGrad98 can mantion any factor other than body-count, a happenstance of history as much as an indication of blood-thirstyness.

Still, since you're emphasizing you're not tryingto be too serious, I suppose I can't hold you too accountable.
 
For one thing, Bush never lied. He was wrong, but that is a far cry from lying.

I agree Bush didn't lie. He acted on his own convictions and interpreted evidence to support the conclusions that he had already made, and disregarded evidence that ran contrary to those conclusions, but he didn't try to present a case he thought was wrong.
 
If you forgot you endorsed a view, go back and check. In comment #150 in this thread you say a poster who does not believe the five worst dictators of all time lived in the 20th century would prefer to have been raped than get his Pearling.

Saying The Pearl would give a Pearling is an endorsement of what again? You sure know how to read things that are there. Your assumptions are continually the cause of your own misunderstanding and resulting board clutter. I have fun playing off of that.

In #163 you specifically endorse another posters position that the five worst have been in the 20th century, but neither you nor LogGrad98 can mantion any factor other than body-count, a happenstance of history as much as an indication of blood-thirstyness.

Yeah, but just to act like an arrogant prick and get you off my back about it. You keep pestering and pestering and pestering based on your faulty insinuations.

Anyway, my only goal was to keep your attention inside this thread so you wouldn't pollute the rest of the board as much. I think I succeeded.

Now check my signature.
 
Saying The Pearl would give a Pearling is an endorsement of what again? You sure know how to read things that are there. Your assumptions are continually the cause of your own misunderstanding and resulting board clutter. I have fun playing off of that.



Yeah, but just to act like an arrogant prick and get you off my back about it. You keep pestering and pestering and pestering based on your faulty insinuations.

Anyway, my only goal was to keep your attention inside this thread so you wouldn't pollute the rest of the board as much. I think I succeeded.

Now check my signature.

Franklin you have done everyone else a service. I salute you.


Oh and I never read Unibrow's comments, but seeing it here I will respond.

If you go back far enough, oh he of the single brow, you will see that I qualified my list clearly stating I was making that list based on body count alone. This is one way to discuss ruthless tyrants and it is the measure I chose since I originated the argument. If you choose to take the argument in another direction, feel free to come up with a standard of your own and argue that. But don't try to argue that my point is invalid since there are other ways to measure it, when I identified in the first place that I chose to measure it in that way for the purposes of this discussion. If you can come up with an objective way to differentiate blood-thirstiness then lay it out there. If not, then it is all purely speculation on your part.

Also the only reason it went there anyway is I was pointing out that the reason given by another poster for attacking Lybia was to oust Ghadaffi due to bloodshed he is causing. That is used as a reason to support this military action. But the poster also made it clear he did NOT support the war in Iraq, ignoring the fact that Saddam was a far bloodier dictator than Ghadaffi ever hoped to be.

So can you argue the original post? Is Ghadaffi so much more ruthless than Saddam that he needs to be ousted for no other reason as he has broken no UN resolutions, and has not developed and used chemical and biological weapons against his own people, etc. Since the acceptable reason is his volume of bloodshed it is valid to compare his ousting to that of Saddam.

You can choose to respond or not. I won't see it unless someone else quotes it. But don't insinuate things about Franklin claiming he is ignoring or misreading other posts when you misread and/or ignored the qualifying statement in the original argument you butted into.
 
If you choose to take the argument in another direction, feel free to come up with a standard of your own and argue that.

You mean, like intent to commit genocide, the use to which the deaths occur, etc.

If you can come up with an objective way to differentiate blood-thirstiness then lay it out there. If not, then it is all purely speculation on your part.

I fully acknowledge you can't objectify blood-thirstiness, much like you can't objectify tallness. That doesn't blood-thirstiness or tallness a matter of speculation.

Also the only reason it went there anyway is I was pointing out that the reason given by another poster for attacking Lybia was to oust Ghadaffi due to bloodshed he is causing. That is used as a reason to support this military action. But the poster also made it clear he did NOT support the war in Iraq, ignoring the fact that Saddam was a far bloodier dictator than Ghadaffi ever hoped to be.

We were already far more involved in Iraq before the 2003 overthrow than we have been in Libya at any time up until this point. You have a valid claim of differential body-counts, the counter-point is the different levels of responses. Creating false equivalences between the Iraqi and Libyan situations has been your stock-in-trade in this thread, so this is nothing new.

So can you argue the original post? Is Ghadaffi so much more ruthless than Saddam that he needs to be ousted for no other reason as he has broken no UN resolutions, and has not developed and used chemical and biological weapons against his own people, etc. Since the acceptable reason is his volume of bloodshed it is valid to compare his ousting to that of Saddam.

Who has called for the ouster of Ghadaffi, besides the rebels? You can't even argue honestly, so you rely on hypothetical ouster calls to condemn real-word activities. There are certainly various scenarios in which NATO could withdraw without Ghadaffi being ousted, not all of them being a failure on NATOs part to protect civilians.

But don't insinuate things about Franklin claiming he is ignoring or misreading other posts when you misread and/or ignored the qualifying statement in the original argument you butted into.

Why not? franklin enjoys having things beign insinuated about him, he's pratically squealing in delight over it. It's very kind of you to play Miss Manners, but since you overlooked the fact that I did not accuse franklin of misreading or ignoring anything, perhaps the mirror is the best direction for your advice here.
 
Saying The Pearl would give a Pearling is an endorsement of what again?

In context, the incorrectnes of the poster's position.

You sure know how to read things that are there.

Yes, I do.

Your assumptions are continually the cause of your own misunderstanding and resulting board clutter.

Feel free to clutter up more with an example of an actual misunderstanding, if you have one in mind.

I have fun playing off of that.

No, really?

Yeah, but just to act like an arrogant prick and get you off my back about it.

I thought you were having fun with the clutter?

You keep pestering and pestering and pestering based on your faulty insinuations.

That's the fun, isn't it?

Anyway, my only goal was to keep your attention inside this thread so you wouldn't pollute the rest of the board as much. I think I succeeded.

Really? What other threads would I normally post in that you think you distracted me from? Which threads did you preserve for your sucess?

Now check my signature.

Did that last time you said so.

franklin said:
Ooh, and thank you for taking up a bunch of stale time I had. I really mean this, Big Fundy, thank you.

My pleasure. Do hang around and let me entertain you so more, so you can get me off your back while you're having all this fun.
 
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