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Obama Might Lose This

Oh, and just to bring this thread back to the topic, I hope Obama wins. Not really a huge fan, but Romney just seems like a complete phony. I know all presidential candidates are phony to a large extent, including Obama, but Romney just seems to take it to another level in my opinion.
 
Nate505 said:
The fact it's close means the Republicans have put up an awful candidate. Obama hasn't done much and the economy is stagnant. Think George H.W. Bush. But that year the Dems nominated a candidate worth a damn.

I remember in 04 thinking Bush the 2nd had no chance. I mean, everyone could see what an idiot he was and the he started meaningless wars, who would really vote for him? And the the Dems nominated John Kerry, and the wheels fell off even though it was a race decided by one state.
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Pretty much my thoughts.
 
Nate and Cy, when was the last time a candidate truly inspired you based on merits? (ignoring the false inspiration of hope and change Obama won with)
 
larryselbows said:
Bush 1 and Clinton did a good job I thought. Bush 2 made a lot of mistakes in my opinion and the jury's still out on Obama.
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Did they inspire you when they were running or did the do a good job once in office? I have not been "inspired" by a candidate in forever.
 
Probably Obama was the last guy to inspire me. He's a pretty great orator, but his policies have yet to bear much fruit, although it is hard to tell how successful they are as we may never know how bad the economy would have become without his policies. I do think he has continued to allow for a lot of the same moral hazards in banking to go on as they were previous to the crash. There wasn't any reform on wallstreet. I don't agree with that.
 
larryselbows said:
Probably Obama was the last guy to inspire me. He's a pretty great orator, but his policies have yet to bear much fruit, although it is hard to tell how successful they are as we may never know how bad the economy would have become without his policies. I do think he has continued to allow for a lot of the same moral hazards in banking to go on as they were previous to the crash. There wasn't any reform on wallstreet. I don't agree with that.
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But when he was running it was all hope and change but no substance. So I do not count that to be honest. I am talking about being inspired by a person because of their policies and their in depth proposals. Not a "I will make things better and change Washington!"
 
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