Game Thread Oct 06, 2021 06:30PM MT: Jazz at Mavericks (Preseason)

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm telling yall... I didn't watch much college basketball... but tuned into Baylor games occasionally to watch Mitchell... always came away more impressed with Butler. Then in the tourney he was just a murderer. I think the kid does winning stuff and just has a game that will help teams win.

 

[SojoDave]

I'm worried if Doke is going to be an NBA center. He looked lost on defense and that's the last thing the Jazz need is a backup center that sucks on defense.

 

[candrew]

I'm worried if Doke is going to be an NBA center. He looked lost on defense and that's the last thing the Jazz need is a backup center that sucks on defense.

No need to worry - he's not an NBA Center. His ceiling is to fill in for Rudy or Hassan if they get hurt and not totally **** things up.

Jazz should never draft a player like him again.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

I'm worried if Doke is going to be an NBA center. He looked lost on defense and that's the last thing the Jazz need is a backup center that sucks on defense.

He dominated Summer League as I recall. He'll be fine, strong and athletic....he just makes a lot of rookie/second year mistakes. I remember when Gobert was a liability on the floor as well and look at him now!

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Dereck Harper also said he had no idea what position Udoka was suited for in the NBA and that he didn't look big enough to guard Boban. So.....

Ya, that was weird, I mean Boban makes most centers look small Udoka is definitely more than big enough as a center, but he’s just not good, has only the basics of being a center, no real skills beyond that, and even then, he’s not that good. My god we passed up a lot of good players for a guy that was expected to be second round. Our scouting department is horrible at times.

The move Butler put on Zinger with the double crossover was very mean. The step back threes he hit were super smooth and likely where he does most of his damage... but those shifty crossover moves he's shown are fun AF.

I'm so glad we got him.

This is the move the announcer used as to why he compared him to a young Thomas.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

He dominated Summer League as I recall. He'll be fine, strong and athletic....he just makes a lot of rookie/second year mistakes. I remember when Gobert was a liability on the floor as well and look at him now!

Lots of guys dominate summer league, but aren’t nba players Dok might be a poor poor poor mans less skilled Dwight Howard.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Also, Gobert was a beast from the get go, raw, but he was useful on defense and everyone on Jazzfanz couldn’t figure out why Corbin wouldn’t use him more. Even at a young age and how terrible this team was back then, he was one of the main reasons we were more competitive then we should’ve been. Even then his defense was a game changer despite him being raw and inexperienced.

 

[MTS]

He dominated Summer League as I recall. He'll be fine, strong and athletic....he just makes a lot of rookie/second year mistakes. I remember when Gobert was a liability on the floor as well and look at him now!

I'm not sure if Gobert was ever a liability on the floor. He spent his rookie year on a terrible team with a coach who had no clue how to use him.

In his 2nd year he had a humongously positive impact right away and his minutes going up was the main reason the Jazz started winning.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

Lots of guys dominate summer league, but aren’t nba players Dok might be a poor poor poor mans less skilled Dwight Howard.

Not sure about a triple poor man's Howard, but I'd settle for the poor man's version in a heartbeat. Only thing is that his FT% was 80% last year, I'm thinking poor man's Deandre Ayton.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Not sure about a triple poor man's Howard, but I'd settle for the poor man's version in a heartbeat. Only thing is that his FT% was 80% last year, I'm thinking poor man's Deandre Ayton.

WTF you smoking? I want some!! Idiot!!

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

I'm not sure if Gobert was ever a liability on the floor. He spent his rookie year on a terrible team with a coach who had no clue how to use him.

In his 2nd year he had a humongously positive impact right away and his minutes going up was the main reason the Jazz started winning.

Doke is just heading into his second season as well, with a better set of hands and better ft% than Rudy had at that juncture.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He dominated Summer League as I recall. He'll be fine, strong and athletic....he just makes a lot of rookie/second year mistakes. I remember when Gobert was a liability on the floor as well and look at him now!

Its a more chaotic environment... less offensive skill out there obviously... you can dominate by being a large athletic human. Against real nba players that are skilled and smart they can take advantage of a guy that is over reacts. I think he's hanging back a bit to work on this or just not sure where he is supposed to be so he's not playing aggressively. I think he's an nba player but I am not a big fan of taking big unskilled centers in the first round... especially when a franchise cornerstone is basically the absolute ceiling of that type of player. I mean I guess he could have been viewed as the replacement for Rudy at some point but its just a tough way to allocate resources. Especially because you can get Hassan Whiteside, Dwight Howard, Andre Drummond at the minimum.