Game Thread Oct 15, 2024 07:00PM MT: Sacramento Kings @ Utah Jazz (Preseason)

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Watching the preseason just reinforces how unenjoyable watching Clarkson play has become. Reckless turnover overdribbling machine. I've really enjoyed watching some of the youth play and make some good plays (and some bad ones too).

The way Clarkson plays, he has basically made himself untradeable.

Ive actually enjoyed him a lot.

 

[Agent#00]

Pessimist - If we lose then our young guys probably aren't playing well and our vets are less tradeable and losses still suck.
Optimist - If we lose then we are increasing our chances at a franchise changing talent

Pessimist - If we win then we are losing out on ping pong balls for potentially franchise changing talent and setting ourselves up for continued mediocrity.
Optimist - If we win then our young guys are further along than expected, plus winning is fun.

There will be something for everyone this season.

I will continue to be conflicted in both wins and losses as I can see it both ways.

My mind tells me we need to lose because we've been in nba purgatory too long but deep inside of me winning gives me joy. And all in youth movement is not the answer. They sometimes get stuck and develop like snail. I say give them 3-4 years if they dont make a significant leap then trade them. So far only Key made a significant jump.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Watching the preseason just reinforces how unenjoyable watching Clarkson play has become. Reckless turnover overdribbling machine. I've really enjoyed watching some of the youth play and make some good plays (and some bad ones too).

The way Clarkson plays, he has basically made himself untradeable.

Is it just me, but it feels like once he checks in he doesn’t come out. It really bugs me.

 

[HermanG]

Watching the preseason just reinforces how unenjoyable watching Clarkson play has become. Reckless turnover overdribbling machine. I've really enjoyed watching some of the youth play and make some good plays (and some bad ones too).

The way Clarkson plays, he has basically made himself untradeable.

Last game was rough but I would say 2024 preseason JC >>> 2023-24 regular season JC

 

[HermanG]

I threw out 26 on our last pod. So 27.5 feels pretty close to me too. I think it opened at like 28.5 or 29 some places.

Had some time so was browsing the schedules of the other tanktastic teams to see if any had easier schedules. They really don't have a lot of head to head action early or no team had an easier schedule that stood out to me. In the spring there is a lot of head to head between Nets, Hornets, Wiz, Pistons, Raps. So there may be more than a few slow starts in the first 20 games.

First line I saw at MGM/Caesars was 27.5 I think. It peaked at 29.5 after Lauri extended, and for whatever reason went down few days ago to 28.5 where it sits currently.

After release its mostly adjusted due to action, so I'm kinda curious as to why gamblers went smashing the under after seeing the first few preseason games.

Before preseason we were tied with Raptors at 6th. Now we are almost tied with Chicago at 5th (Caesars giving them 27.5, but MGM has them at 28.5).

 

[HermanG]

Now rhat I think of it the line probably went down because some experts published their picks and went for under.

I would guess lots of gamblers trust certain experts instead of doing their own research on these full season bets.

 

[YoungJefe]

Optimist - If we win then our young guys are further along than expected, plus winning is fun.

We win just enough to screw ourselves out of a top pick while the young dudes struggle and Clarkson/Collins ball but are still untradeable

 

[Agent#00]

Watching the preseason just reinforces how unenjoyable watching Clarkson play has become. Reckless turnover overdribbling machine. I've really enjoyed watching some of the youth play and make some good plays (and some bad ones too).

The way Clarkson plays, he has basically made himself untradeable.

Hes been good so far. Some turnovers were easy read like wanting mills to score. Blame fangirling. Some were loose handles but you can see the defense collapse when he attacks. Kings dont have a rim protector so they depend on steals/to. Jc had 6, lauri 5, sexton 4. Jazz had 16 TOs but so did Warriors. Podz had 6 turnovers in that game too.

 

[fishonjazz]

Last game was rough but I would say 2024 preseason JC >>> 2023-24 regular season JC

Hard to be worse than JC was last season. He was atrocious.

And 2nd on the team in minutes lololololololol

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[fishonjazz]

We win just enough to screw ourselves out of a top pick while the young dudes struggle and Clarkson/Collins ball but are still untradeable

Hello, tremendous upside

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[TheGoldStandard]

Last game was rough but I would say 2024 preseason JC >>> 2023-24 regular season JC

IIRC he had a good preseason last year.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Juzang looks like he has learned how to compete and ball hawk on D from Sexton. Noice. Not sure either are plus defenders but I love watching guys compete.