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Game Thread Oct 26, 2022 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs Rockets

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Zombie said:
I don't think it needs to be either or. In any case he isn't crashing the boards when he's sitting on the bench with foul trouble. He's averaging five fouls per game so far, and it's really limiting his time on the floor.
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Some of the fouls have been BS though. Im thinking that he can continue to play the same way he has played and maybe the whistle will start going his way as he gets a reputation as a draymond/rodman type. He is getting treated like a rookie right now but if the jazz keep winning and he continues to do what he does then i think he will get less fouls simply by getting more respect.


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Bawse Dawg said:
That’s the problem though. That losing streak will happen, it has too. And at that point how will we feel about these wins we picked up early on that are now months passed but killing us in the tank standings?

And maybe it never truly happens and we actually scratch, claw, and grit our way into the playoffs. Fun story and all. But we would get absolutely smoked, it would be ugly. And then what do we have? A ‘winning culture’ and zero lotto balls. Who is happy if the end result is a 4 game sweep in the playoffs and zero lottery picks?
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If we make the playoffs then that means we have a good young team and an amazing coach (he would probably win coach of the year) and a **** ton of assets and lots of money to spend on fee agents.

Being a good young team with tons of money, a million draft picks, and the best coach in the nba would be a good result imo.

What if markannen ends up beng better than VW? What if vando turns into prime draymond? Maybe this team is actually really good and this isnt all fools gold.


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fishonjazz said:
So does that mean that brooklyn and philly both have a little imcentive to fimish worse than the other at the end of the season in order to keep their pick?

Woukd be funny to see a mini tank race between those two at the end of the year.


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No, Philadelphia owes their pick to Brooklyn regardless of what happens.

Houston also has the right to swap their first with Brooklyn this year.
 
fishonjazz said:
If we make the playoffs then that means we have a good young team and an amazing coach (he would probably win coach of the year) and a **** ton of assets and lots of money to spend on fee agents.

Being a good young team with tons of money, a million draft picks, and the best coach in the nba would be a good result imo.

What if markannen ends up beng better than VW? What if vando turns into prime draymond? Maybe this team is actually really good and this isnt all fools gold.


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Having said this i think the most likely thing to happen this season is that we win like 32 games or something and get a pick in the 8-11 range. Which isnt ideal.

But making the playoff would be awesome and would be ideal imo.


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fishonjazz said:
Some of the fouls have been BS though. Im thinking that he can continue to play the same way he has played and maybe the whistle will start going his way as he gets a reputation as a draymond/rodman type. He is getting treated like a rookie right now but if the jazz keep winning and he continues to do what he does then i think he will get less fouls simply by getting more respect.


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Last night's officials were blowing the whistle far too much. The rest of the nights Vando has had some stupid *** fouls. He just needs to cut out the dumb one or two. Even so... just go out there and do it. Love Vando but 25-30 minutes is just fine with his offensive limitations.
 
fishonjazz said:
Having said this i think the most likely thing to happen this season is that we win like 32 games or something and get a pick in the 8-11 range. Which isnt ideal.

But making the playoff would be awesome and would be ideal imo.


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This is where we are headed. Likely too late to make enough trades to make us worse without it being effing obvious. The guys we want to keep are too good for us to be awful.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Last night's officials were blowing the whistle far too much. The rest of the nights Vando has had some stupid *** fouls. He just needs to cut out the dumb one or two. Even so... just go out there and do it. Love Vando but 25-30 minutes is just fine with his offensive limitations.
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Vando needs to work on his positioning. He's relying too much on his athleticism and effort. It works much of the time, but when there's a guy constantly going over the back and late on helpside rotations, the refs don't give him the benefit of the doubt in 50-50 calls.
 
fishonjazz said:
If we make the playoffs then that means we have a good young team and an amazing coach (he would probably win coach of the year) and a **** ton of assets and lots of money to spend on fee agents.

Being a good young team with tons of money, a million draft picks, and the best coach in the nba would be a good result imo.

What if markannen ends up beng better than VW? What if vando turns into prime draymond? Maybe this team is actually really good and this isnt all fools gold.


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As crazy as it sounds IF we think we have a shot at say a top four seed, we should trade our own pick right away while it still has major cachet for an SGA, Giddy, Fox or Haliburton. Conley and NAW + our pick for SGA works for me. OKC has to be motivated as SGA and Giddy are redundant. Conley or Sexton and Azubuike + our pick for Haliburton and Turner is another sweet deal. These guys are all game ready unlike a random pick and it would totally remove any ambivalence regarding goals and intent.
 
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