October 22nd - UTAH JAZZ @ portland trailblazers (8pm MST)

[nightmare3983]

Can someone please post Burks and Lillards per 36 minute averages?

For this preseason:

Burks: 18.6 points, 5.2 Rebs, 3.2 Asts, 0.8 Stls, 0 Blks, 2.2 TOs, 4.6 PFs, .511 FG%, .750 3P%, .542 FT%

Lillard: 20.3 points, 3.3 Rebs, 7.2 Asts, 0.6 Stls, 0 Blks, 4.3 TOs, 2.6 PFs, .500 FGs, .407 3P%, .941 FT%

EDIT: This is over 7 games (0 starts) for Burks and 5 games (5 starts) for Lillard.

 

[Hartsock]

As I recall in the SA game Burks was blindly driving into the help and forcing shots at the rim. Last night he took good, on balance, under control jumpers and got the rim when the space was there. I think Burks is slowly recognizing where his scoring opportunities are in a NBA game. IMO defensively he has long way to go with team/help D. Watch Burks and then watch Marvin Williams.

Thank you, I never said I hated Burks or wanted him gone. The question was asked " If you were to trade one of our young guys for Lillard who would it be?" I said Burks and explained why. Because I believe he, of the 4 young guys, has the best chance of becoming someone that doesn't help the team on a regular basis. I never said I would actually do it, although Lillard looked pretty decent last night, but out of our young guys he is the one I would be most ok with parting with. He very may well turn out to be a great player, he might end up averaging 20 pts a game on 25 shots also. No one knows but FishonJazz so my bad.

 

[fishonjazz]

Thank you, I never said I hated Burks or wanted him gone. The question was asked " If you were to trade one of our young guys for Lillard who would it be?" I said Burks and explained why. Because I believe he, of the 4 young guys, has the best chance of becoming someone that doesn't help the team on a regular basis. I never said I would actually do it, although Lillard looked pretty decent last night, but out of our young guys he is the one I would be most ok with parting with. He very may well turn out to be a great player, he might end up averaging 20 pts a game on 25 shots also. No one knows but FishonJazz so my bad.

That is a good thought out post right there..... I just didn't like the part in your original post when you said that burks does alot of stupid and selfish things.... because so far this year, that is not the case.

Im fine with you saying you might trade burks for lillard (hell i would think about it too and im a huge burks fan).

 

[Hartsock]

That is a good thought out post right there..... I just didn't like the part in your original post when you said that burks does alot of stupid and selfish things.... because so far this year, that is not the case.

Im fine with you saying you might trade burks for lillard (hell i would think about it too and im a huge burks fan).

In these 3 or 4 games we have been able to atually watch he seems to be playing better and more under control. That is a small sample size though, last years 82 game sample he was out of control a lot, sometimes it worked out for him and he killed it, but he only shot 35% on the year and had a 1:1 turnover assist ratio. Those aren't great numbers. I am still totally cool with him being on the court though becuase of his potential.

 

[JGolds]

I think this is a good excample of why being a jazz fan is so stressful at times lol. We lose the games we are suppose to win and win the games we should lose. do you all get that feeling too?

 

[seattlejazzfan]

That is a good thought out post right there..... I just didn't like the part in your original post when you said that burks does alot of stupid and selfish things.... because so far this year, that is not the case.

Im fine with you saying you might trade burks for lillard (hell i would think about it too and im a huge burks fan).

I agree, foj. Lillard looks like a star, and one would have to be an idiot to not consider moving Burks for him. I just find it comical when guys like kk or qman (makes mistakes consistently on defense) pull stuff out of their asses, the same things you could accuse anybody on the team of, in order to validate their points.

 

[NCJazz]

Since we have Hayward to play the two trading Burks for Lillard would be a no brainer IMO. Obviously I think Portland would laugh at us if we talked straight up trade.

I agree, foj. Lillard looks like a star, and one would have to be an idiot to not consider moving Burks for him. I just find it comical when guys like kk or qman (makes mistakes consistently on defense) pull stuff out of their asses, the same things you could accuse anybody on the team of, in order to validate their points.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

In these 3 or 4 games we have been able to atually watch he seems to be playing better and more under control. That is a small sample size though, last years 82 game sample he was out of control a lot, sometimes it worked out for him and he killed it, but he only shot 35% on the year and had a 1:1 turnover assist ratio. Those aren't great numbers. I am still totally cool with him being on the court though becuase of his potential.

43% FGs.

 

[Hartsock]

I agree, foj. Lillard looks like a star, and one would have to be an idiot to not consider moving Burks for him. I just find it comical when guys like kk or qman (makes mistakes consistently on defense) pull stuff out of their asses, the same things you could accuse anybody on the team of, in order to validate their points.

I find it laughable when you give guy a pass because other people also make mistakes. By your logic, CJ "Chucker" Miles should still be here because everyone takes bad shots and makes mistakes on D.

 

[Hartsock]

43% FGs.

You're right I was only looking at his last 5 games of the year. I apologize.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I find it laughable when you give guy a pass because other people also make mistakes. By your logic, CJ "Chucker" Miles should still be here because everyone takes bad shots and makes mistakes on D.

I'm not giving him a pass for anything. I'm just not going to criticize him or even compliment him for that matter for things I have no clue how he does comparative to other players on the team. Burks might do less stupid, selfish, things than anybody on the team or he might do more of that than anybody on the team. What I know is that neither you or I have a damn clue which is the case or if he's somewhere in the middle.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lillard looks like Monta Ellis, meh. If he can develop a better overall game and prove to be a consistent shooter, he might be better.