Great points in the topic post by jazzfanz_2814.
We can only speculate as to exactly what goes on behind closed doors and inside people's heads.
I don't know that Deron consciously pushed Sloan out to the extent you suggest, actually I doubt it. However, I do think that Deron's attitude could have been better, and this appears to be one of many factors in Sloan's feeling it was time to go, and possibly the biggest single factor although not the only one.
I say this admitting that I was one of the posters here calling for Sloan to make some tactical changes, such as playing Fes more, one of the things that has been cited as a prime example of Deron's horrible transgressions. However, I never meant these suggestions as an attack on Sloan's competence, just as suggestions he might want to consider these things, and I left open the possibility that I was entirely wrong, they were just ideas that might be considered.
I wonder if the players do read this board. Probably not a lot directly, but the comments here probably do have an influence even if indirectly. The tiny number of people posting here probably do have an impact on the zeitgeist out of proportion to their numbers. Even if the players and coaches and owners pay little attention to this board, there is little doubt the board is read by many people who care about the Jazz or the NBA, and the ideas expressed here are heard.
Words can have an impact, and I would think it is difficult for the team to be at their best when there most vocal fans are attacking them day after day with the most hateful , stupid and vicious attacks on their character and performance of the players, coaches, and management.
So, I place some of the blame on Jazzfanz.com. I won't take the time to name names. There are a lot of very intelligent thoughts expressed here, but there is also a lot of dumb negativity that I see as counterproductive.
I have kept my mouth shut as Deron has been treated as some sort of God on this board. I don't want to drag him down, but I think some of the worship was overdone.
Likewise , while Sloan has also been worshipped by many, I have also been disappointed by some of the rabid attacks on Sloan. I don't think he is perfect either, but I think he has done a great job for the franchise, and is a quality persion, as has been expressed more eloquently by others.
I think people in general maybe give too much money and time following sports, and i am guilty of this myself. There are more important problems and issues in the world that don't receive comparable resources. However, following this franchise has been a big part of my life, and Jerry Sloan has been a big part of this. I have great respect for the guy, and the NBA won't be the same without him.
We can only speculate as to exactly what goes on behind closed doors and inside people's heads.
I don't know that Deron consciously pushed Sloan out to the extent you suggest, actually I doubt it. However, I do think that Deron's attitude could have been better, and this appears to be one of many factors in Sloan's feeling it was time to go, and possibly the biggest single factor although not the only one.
I say this admitting that I was one of the posters here calling for Sloan to make some tactical changes, such as playing Fes more, one of the things that has been cited as a prime example of Deron's horrible transgressions. However, I never meant these suggestions as an attack on Sloan's competence, just as suggestions he might want to consider these things, and I left open the possibility that I was entirely wrong, they were just ideas that might be considered.
I wonder if the players do read this board. Probably not a lot directly, but the comments here probably do have an influence even if indirectly. The tiny number of people posting here probably do have an impact on the zeitgeist out of proportion to their numbers. Even if the players and coaches and owners pay little attention to this board, there is little doubt the board is read by many people who care about the Jazz or the NBA, and the ideas expressed here are heard.
Words can have an impact, and I would think it is difficult for the team to be at their best when there most vocal fans are attacking them day after day with the most hateful , stupid and vicious attacks on their character and performance of the players, coaches, and management.
So, I place some of the blame on Jazzfanz.com. I won't take the time to name names. There are a lot of very intelligent thoughts expressed here, but there is also a lot of dumb negativity that I see as counterproductive.
I have kept my mouth shut as Deron has been treated as some sort of God on this board. I don't want to drag him down, but I think some of the worship was overdone.
Likewise , while Sloan has also been worshipped by many, I have also been disappointed by some of the rabid attacks on Sloan. I don't think he is perfect either, but I think he has done a great job for the franchise, and is a quality persion, as has been expressed more eloquently by others.
I think people in general maybe give too much money and time following sports, and i am guilty of this myself. There are more important problems and issues in the world that don't receive comparable resources. However, following this franchise has been a big part of my life, and Jerry Sloan has been a big part of this. I have great respect for the guy, and the NBA won't be the same without him.
