enchilada_style
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Get a hold of yourself. I'm sure Greg would just be devastated if you send him your Jazz apparel with your little hate note.
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Get a hold of yourself. I'm sure Greg would just be devastated if you send him your Jazz apparel with your little hate note.
David Stern
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Monroe's stock is slipping, he could EASILY drop to 9 now.
Really? Says who? I think Detroit or GS would likely take him.
Even if the Jazz keep Boozer AND draft the pick at 9(someone like say Ed Davis), that still doesnt make them a contender. It barely improves them. If they draft at 9 and let go of Booz though, that only makes them much worse. Jazz are 2 solid moves away, apart from a #9 pick,to contend.
I think if Paul George and Ante Tomic pan out, the Jazz are close. But both those guys have to really pan out, Millsap needs to keep improving, AK needs to show up, Miles/Matthews need to keep improving and Fess needs to keep improving.
Stifle Tower
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Well, maybe I'll send them "soiled." That should get someone's attention.
InGameStrategy
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Bleacher Report ain't any more legit than the major draft boards, but their predictions for Utah look not only scary but stupid (on the Jazz's part, if BR is right).
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/410650-2010-nba-draft-a-final-mock-before-the-real-deal#page/10
Their order for 9 through 11 is Babbitt, Hayward, and George. Leaving George on the board in favor of Babbitt seems crazy.
I might even prefer Aldrich over Babbitt. And I don't prefer Aldrich very much.
NBAdraft.net has Utah taking Babbitt, too.
https://www.nbadraft.net/2010mock_draft
Fortunately ESPN has cooler heads prevailing--and predicting that the Jazz will go George.
https://espn.go.com/nba/draft
And DraftExpress, which I trust relatively highly, thinks Davis will be on the board.
https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2010/
No Aldrich for Utah? No Udoh? Definitely no Whiteside? Interesting. My hopes are Davis/Udoh if they go big or George if they go small. Whiteside would be OK, too, but he's too raw, so I don't think that they will go there. Davis probably will contribute a bit sooner. Anybody but a big stiff or a skinny SF. No mention of "white" (or Whiteside) necessary. BTW, this photo is yet another reason that Jazz ≠ Jayhawk.
https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/49816055-87/jazz-draft-boozer-pick.html.csp
P.S. I'm intrigued by the repeated comments about Tomic being in the mix. At 7 feet, 220, he seems farther away from contributing than Whiteside. And I haven't seen any indication that he's planning to come over soon.
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InGameStrategy
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You have a strange definition of cheap[skate]. Oklahoma City has a significantly smaller than Utah does, which enabled them to make a trade.
https://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
I agree that the Jazz ownership could do a better job, but it would be more productive for them to make sure that the coaching staff is making better decisions. It's unreasonable to expect them to spend more money. IMHO, the FO has been unwisely spending too much money (e.g., re-signing Okur a year earlier than was necessary at little to no discount), not the opposite.
InGameStrategy
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By not re-signing Boozer, the interior defense gets better by 5 to 10 points per game. Millsap can make up part of the 3 to 5 point shortfall offensively. Net result: improvement.
From Tweeter:
@ChrisMannixSI: Misspoke in today's SI Video. Sources say Utah exploring options to move up but obviously can't include Boozer in a deal, as Booz is a FA
@ChrisMannixSI: Boozer can be included in a later deal via sign-and-trade, which could include a draft pick. Jazz don't want to lose Boozer for nothing.
@ChrisMannixSI: Misspoke in today's SI Video. Sources say Utah exploring options to move up but obviously can't include Boozer in a deal, as Booz is a FA
@ChrisMannixSI: Boozer can be included in a later deal via sign-and-trade, which could include a draft pick. Jazz don't want to lose Boozer for nothing.
Cooler heads? You mean us getting a 6-9 guy who is shooting 42% for a crappy school at #9. This would be absolute disaster.
BENTLEY
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All the NO IDEAS WHAT JAZZ ARE DOING are great! This is fun!
and maybe I feel this way because I am not a fan of Boozer at all. I am so glad he's going elsewhere. And even though it doesn't make the Jazz on the level of the Lakers Aldrich does make them better than Boozer (but again, I'm a hater).
AND I've been hot and cold on Babbitt. But I'm warming again today - I think he could be Melo-lite. The dude is accurate. But he's better than Korver, super-athletic and 6'9". It's the fact that he's white that makes us scared. I'll believe it more when I see it but he really could be a stud.
But I'd prefer the Jazz trade up and select Cuz or Favors.
BUT I HAVE NO IDEA IF THEY WILL!! --it's fun, and it'll probably end anti-climacticly. But not necessarily badly. Babbitt could be great. Aldrich will be very good. Monroe will be tall at least - and a good passer. Whoopee. ...maybe they'll trade up.
and maybe I feel this way because I am not a fan of Boozer at all. I am so glad he's going elsewhere. And even though it doesn't make the Jazz on the level of the Lakers Aldrich does make them better than Boozer (but again, I'm a hater).
AND I've been hot and cold on Babbitt. But I'm warming again today - I think he could be Melo-lite. The dude is accurate. But he's better than Korver, super-athletic and 6'9". It's the fact that he's white that makes us scared. I'll believe it more when I see it but he really could be a stud.
But I'd prefer the Jazz trade up and select Cuz or Favors.
BUT I HAVE NO IDEA IF THEY WILL!! --it's fun, and it'll probably end anti-climacticly. But not necessarily badly. Babbitt could be great. Aldrich will be very good. Monroe will be tall at least - and a good passer. Whoopee. ...maybe they'll trade up.