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cowhide said:
As far as coaching, how appealing are the NY or LA jobs right now? Both franchises are a disaster right now, In LA, they've fired two coaches in a year, their roster is a mess, Kobe is 36 years old with A LOT of mileage on his body coming off two major injuries, Gasol is most likely out the door, Nash is done and won't take a buyout and the rest of the bunch are all wanting for contracts. Entitled laker fans will not allow a new coach two or three years to get the team back on track.

NY - horrible owner, impatient fan base, Carmelo might leave, Amare is half the player he was in Phoenix, JR Smith is a tool. Chandler is declining and gets hurt, the rest of the roster very average. No pick this year. Financially the roster is set for this year unless Phil is really a miracle GM.

Minnesota - horribly run franchise, worse weather than Utah and their best player wants out.
Cleveland - horribly run franchise, they are talking about trading the #1 pick and hoping Lebron comes back. Fat chance of that happening because even with their current roster it is a mess. They have a chance of losing Kyrie Irving too if they don't get better. They haven't won since Lebron was there and they had a few good years during MJ years. Need I remind you that franchises can't trade 1st round picks in consecutive years, Why? Cleveland is why. The weather there is worse than Utah. However, Fans would enshrine into the HOF any coach if he were able to win there.

Utah is by far the best place to be if you are talking about a stable coaching opportunity. Utah probably has the least amount of pressure and the most potential right now.
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And yet, here Utah is with a list of assistant coaches, Euro guys and a former player who hasn't coached a minute in the NBA. That might all be by design, but I'd wager, at the end of the day, those franchises will not only spend more than Utah, they'll probably land a coach with a proven record.

Bottom line: You can't actively suggest the Jazz would have been worse off in the coaching search had they grabbed the #1 or #2 pick in this year's draft. You can, though, make a claim that not getting either pick is enough to persuade a coach away from accepting the job - and that's if they were even interested in the first place.
 
Alvin Gentry has been a HC four times.
He has a losing career record.
He was fired mid season on his last attempt.
He has been given enough chances.
He does not need another chance.
 
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Jazz just need to show they're interviewing minority candidates until Boylen is hired.
Seriously, the more this drags out, the more it's apparent Lindsey is waiting for the playoffs to finish. And that can mean just one thing...
 
Core4 said:
Jazz just need to show they're interviewing minority candidates until Boylen is hired.
Seriously, the more this drags out, the more it's apparent Lindsey is waiting for the playoffs to finish. And that can mean just one thing...
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Sean said:
And yet, here Utah is with a list of assistant coaches, Euro guys and a former player who hasn't coached a minute in the NBA. That might all be by design, but I'd wager, at the end of the day, those franchises will not only spend more than Utah, they'll probably land a coach with a proven record.

Bottom line: You can't actively suggest the Jazz would have been worse off in the coaching search had they grabbed the #1 or #2 pick in this year's draft. You can, though, make a claim that not getting either pick is enough to persuade a coach away from accepting the job - and that's if they were even interested in the first place.
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Of course it would have helped to get the #1 or #2 pick but if you objectively look at the teams as they stand now. Utah is a better fit. Of course LA and NY have outside the court advantages but if you want to go into a stable environment with a chance to then Utah should be more appealing. Just look Kerr took the GS job over the NY job, for two reasons - the GS job is a better situation and it is close to his family. So outside things are not controllable but having a well run organization is. RIght now the Jazz are in a better position to win than both LA and NY.

Just because Utah is bringing in numerous candidates doesn't make it less attractive. Your comment makes it seem like Utah is scrapping the bottom of the barrel because they don't have other options. Yes the other franchises will probably pay more but most legitimate coaches care more about being given a fair chance of winning and being supported. I am sure Mike Brown is happy because he is getting paid but he most likely will never be a HC in the NBA. IF a coach comes to Utah and wins, he will eventually get paid or he can go to one of the major franchises and get paid. You go to LA or NY and chances are you could lose and have little chance to coach again in the NBA.
 
Core4 said:
Jazz just need to show they're interviewing minority candidates until Boylen is hired.
Seriously, the more this drags out, the more it's apparent Lindsey is waiting for the playoffs to finish. And that can mean just one thing...
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That he wants to talk to all his candidates before making a choice.
 
Sean said:
And yet, here Utah is with a list of assistant coaches, Euro guys and a former player who hasn't coached a minute in the NBA. That might all be by design, but I'd wager, at the end of the day, those franchises will not only spend more than Utah, they'll probably land a coach with a proven record.

Bottom line: You can't actively suggest the Jazz would have been worse off in the coaching search had they grabbed the #1 or #2 pick in this year's draft. You can, though, make a claim that not getting either pick is enough to persuade a coach away from accepting the job - and that's if they were even interested in the first place.
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Here's the thing. The Jazz are never going to hire a Mike Brown. They want someone who makes long term sense. They knew Corbin was gone last year but they let him finish his contract AND let Horney go. They didn't do that for Boylen. There is a plan in place and it could very well be that the Jazz are also scouting for assistant coaches. And quite frankly I am more impressed with who the Jazz are looking at than the people who keep fleeing the Knicks job. Derek Fisher, really? The Laker's board seems consigned that they are getting Byron Scott. Do you want any of that? Get over your pity party and realize that we are probably going to get just the person we want, because the Jazz job would be pretty coveted for all of the reasons people have stated here.
 
All your points would have merit if I didn't have a sinking feeling the Jazz were on a collision course with Jim Boylen. I'd take just about any coach right now whose name is linked to the New York and L.A. jobs over Boylen. Let's just say, beyond Messina, whose name is now mentioned less and less since initial intrigue, none of the candidates get me excited, and I'm willing to bet I'm not the only one.

So, no, there is no pity party. Just the realization we could only see a marginal improvement over the last coaching staff.
 
I will say this:

Of most the names listed, Alvin Gentry is a coach I can get behind. He's really well liked in Phoenix and I know his dismissal was contentious among their fans. He really did bring that team together during their run to the 2010 Western Conference Finals. Thing is, his record sucks. It's only slightly better than Corbin's. So, it's going to be a tough sell to the fans if he's the guy - since, beyond one season in Detroit and that one season in Phoenix, his overall record is pretty abysmal.

Still, I think much of it is also tied to the fact he took over struggling franchises (LA specifically) and a coach is really only as good as the talent on the court.
 
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