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Stoked said:
Have:
Messina - HC
Messina's #1 guy - lead assistant
Stockton - assistant coach
Jensen - assistant coach
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Best case scenario imo.

Would freak out of this turned out to be the case.

Then draft wiggins..... championships
 
Beantown said:
With the Jazz now contacting Stockton its going to be a huge disappointment if he is not hired.
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Naw, I'll bet he's the one who expresses zero interest.
Still, though, there's a roster spot for a 3rd PG. As much as I love Diante, you let Garrett go and sign Stockton's son if that means John comes aboard to coach the PG's.
 
Beantown said:
With the Jazz now contacting Stockton its going to be a huge disappointment if he is not hired.
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I want Messina over Stockton. Stockton is a legend and my all time favorite player. Love him. Having said that he has no real world coaching experience. I don't want a gamble right now on the new head coach. Messina has the pedigree and is a winner. Bring Stockton in sure, I'd love for him to be an assistant, but don't give him the reigns. Have him under Messina for 10 years then have him replace Messina.
 
b_line said:
Pretty sure stock knew all about how stats affected the game when he played, as he would adjust lots of things based on what the team needed in the way of stats. I bet he could have scored a bunch of points, but he knew his team would benefit from his playmaking more. That kind of stuff was the advanced stats in his day, and I would have to think he would be open to it today as well.
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Stock was very good at asserting himself when the team was on an offense of slump.


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I'd take Stockton as HC any day of the ****ing week. His "real world coaching experience" comes in spades: he was the physical extension of Sloan for almost 20 years. If Sloan has a protégé, it's John.
 
Stoked said:
I want Messina over Stockton. Stockton is a legend and my all time favorite player. Love him. Having said that he has no real world coaching experience. I don't want a gamble right now on the new head coach. Messina has the pedigree and is a winner. Bring Stockton in sure, I'd love for him to be an assistant, but don't give him the reigns. Have him under Messina for 10 years then have him replace Messina.
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After Stock says no, they should hire Messina and convince Stockton to come in as an assistant.


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[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];824887 said:
I'd take Stockton as HC any day of the ****ing week. His "real world coaching experience" comes in spades: he was the physical extension of Sloan for almost 20 years. If Sloan has a protégé, it's John.
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I see what you are saying and you do have apoint. However kowledge of a subject does not always carry over ot being able to teach and guide it.

I still say bring in Stockton as an assistant and let him get used to coaching before we just jump in with both feet.

Edit: Being under Sloan that long has its perks fopr sure, like knowledge. But I want some new blood, new ideas.
 
Stoked said:
I see what you are saying and you do have apoint. However kowledge of a subject does not always carry over ot being able to teach and guide it.

I still say bring in Stockton as an assistant and let him get used to coaching before we just jump in with both feet.
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Did I say it always does?

Stockton's body of work strongly suggests that he has this ability. The Jazz obviously think he's got it, or they wouldn't be reaching out (and they have ****loads more information than we do).

^by the way, this is an excellent example of the yarns you can spin.
Step 1: push my point to its extreme edge ["always"].
Step 2: overlook the things that are inconvenient to what you want to say [Does Messina have what it takes to communicate with American players?]
Step 3: under-sale the things that are inconvenient to what you want to say [Stockton isn't a teacher, right?!?!?!]
Step 4: insert a bizarrely mature-sounding conclusion about the skills of two people [Messina and Stockton].
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];824897 said:
Did I say it always does?

Stockton's body of work strongly suggests that he has this ability. The Jazz obviously think he's got it, or they wouldn't be reaching out (and they have ****loads more information than we do).

^by the way, this is an excellent example of the yarns you can spin.
Step 1: push my point to its extreme edge ["always"].
Step 2: overlook the things that are inconvenient to what you want to say [Does Messina have what it takes to communicate with American players?]
Step 3: under-sale the things that are inconvenient to what you want to say [Stockton isn't a teacher, right?!?!?!]
Step 4: insert a bizarrely mature-sounding conclusion about the skills of two people [Messina and Stockton].
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My point is that we do not know if he is. I do not want the Jazz to take a gamble with this pick. Your assumption that he is is no less a reach then the idea that he may not be.

Also lol about complaing on what you do in damn near every post. You take one word you do not like and try and go off. Attempt at discussion my ***.

Edit: God forbid you just simply say, "I didnt say or mean or say "always". Then just expalin further. Then I could have said "you're right you didn't say "always", Sorry that I cam off that way. I was talking more about the idea then your post specifically. Just trying to show that it is a gamble. One I do not want the Jazzz to take.

But then you wouldn't have anything to complain about. Whatever your problem with me is. Get over it already. Jesus.
 
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