They did?
OFFICIAL: Trade Deadline Thread
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NAOS
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Great question.
I'm wondering how our roster flexibility is factoring into these talks. We have a full roster, so how do we trade BOTH Al and Paul when most deals probably have us taking back more players? Etc.
Could you imagine? I would stop watching the Jazz the moment this took place.
Stifle Tower
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Don't remember that. But I can see the reason why, if true. It was really the Big 2 (Davis and MKG) and everyone else. It would have been tough to give up a guy you're projecting to be a future star for a small-college PG that hadn't yet shown he could play in the NBA.
Even today, would we make the same trade: Favors for Lillard? I'm not sure you do that. It's so hard to find quality bigs unless you have high draft picks. And no big-name FA's have ever put Utah down as one of their top choices. Much easier to find a decent PG in the mid to late first round than it is to find a very good big.
Hotdog
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I think the Jazz would be stupid to let that get in the way. If the right deal is there, then cut Raja and/or Murphy. That shouldnt hold up a deal.
Id' say by a combination of waiving incoming players and considering the buyout of Bell and the removal of players like Watson, Murphy and Evans.
Hotdog
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I think right now its Garnett. I think the Clips really want him. If they can't do it then maybe Bledsoe is the next domino.
I don't see Josh Smith being a domino. I don't see many teams wanting to deal with that.
Maybe its Al and Paul. Its hard to tell just how much interest is in them though, and what we are looking at. Most of us want Bledsoe but I highly doubt the Jazz do.
Stifle Tower
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Not sure if you need to have roster spots available in order to make the trade. I think before you can waive an incoming player, he has to be part of your roster. Maybe one of the board experts can weigh in on this one.
But yes, I agree on releasing current Jazz players: if Bledsoe is part of a deal, you don't really need Watson. Tinsley is the backup and Foye and Burks can be the 3rd PG's until Mo returns. Bell and Murphy are very expendable. Evans is also expendable, but as a last resort. It's nice to have a contract of his size for future trade possibilities. And he's a great teammate.
As for the "The Domino," I think it's Garnett. He'd be #1 on my list. Josh Smith is good, but he's way overvalued (by himself). Everyone knows he's just a rental...unless a lower-tier team wants to pay him the MAX to be their cornerstone. Bobcats, Pelicans?
AS for the Jazz, I think it's really a tough decision for the FO to make. Favors at PF and Jefferson at C would seem to be a better fit. But Millsap has been a company man for so long. Can they convince Favors to play half his minutes at C so Millsap can start at PF? Also, Jefferson, although likely to command a higher salary, might be easier to re-sign than Millsap. I think there's a real fear the Jazz could trade one and then lose the other in free agency. Or be held hostage by the remaining player who would demand a lot more, knowing that the Jazz really need to keep him.
NAOS
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Correct, but this **** costs dough. Does Greggy want to open up the wallet?
Obviously Bell, Murphy, and Watson are adding basically nothing to the win column.
I can't say for sure, but I bet you'd need to have roster spots for all incoming players, even ones you plan on waiving.
Hedda Gambler
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Playing around with the Trade Machine:
Lakers get rid of Gasol and start the Post Jerry-era by saving a lot of money this year and next. Spurs get Jefferson and the Clippers upgrade their play off-squad with Millsap. We finally give up on Paul and Al, get Bledsoe at the point and a 3 man rotation up front with Gasol, Kanter and Favors.
https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=bjrycc9
Lakers get rid of Gasol and start the Post Jerry-era by saving a lot of money this year and next. Spurs get Jefferson and the Clippers upgrade their play off-squad with Millsap. We finally give up on Paul and Al, get Bledsoe at the point and a 3 man rotation up front with Gasol, Kanter and Favors.
https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=bjrycc9