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Official We Don't Need Hayward; Trade him.

Tony said:
Don't forget that that pick was influenced by Corbin... Bet he woulda taken Antetokounmpo if they didn't trade.
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That's who I wanted, which would have been amazing. Too bad, so sad. Guess they just need to learn from that mistake. Best player (with the highest upside) regardless of position. Let competition decide who starts and how many minutes each guy gets.
 
Tony said:
Don't forget that that pick was influenced by Corbin... Bet he woulda taken Antetokounmpo if they didn't trade.
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Umm, no. The Jazz clearly had to take a PG in the draft since KOC and DL left the team devoid of one. That was a HUGE mistake by the two GM's as it eliminated taking BPA.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Umm, no. The Jazz clearly had to take a PG in the draft since KOC and DL left the team devoid of one. That was a HUGE mistake by the two GM's as it eliminated taking BPA.
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Alec Burks, Ian Clark, Diante Garrett, John Lucas III, Jamaal Tinsley
 
Tony said:
Alec Burks
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Is NOT a PG.
Seriously, there is no way Alec plays 35 mins/per at the 1, especially against the better PG's in the league. Yes, the 3 wing offense can be effective in spurts, but not as a full-time option. And especially NOT in the offense Corbin was using. KOC and DL backed themselves into a corner by having Watson and Tinsley as the only options.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Is NOT a PG.
Seriously, there is no way Alec plays 35 mins/per at the 1, especially against the better PG's in the league. Yes, the 3 wing offense can be effective in spurts, but not as a full-time option. And especially NOT in the offense Corbin was using. KOC and DL backed themselves into a corner by having Watson and Tinsley as the only options.
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Watson wasn't on the team. See previous edited post tho. That's 4 point guards we had not including Burks.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Umm, no. The Jazz clearly had to take a PG in the draft since KOC and DL left the team devoid of one. That was a HUGE mistake by the two GM's as it eliminated taking BPA.
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Dude. It's pointetokounpo now. Haven't you seen his triple doubles since they have been playing him at the 1?
 
Tony said:
Watson wasn't on the team. See previous edited post tho. That's 4 point guards we had not including Burks.
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Your timing is a little off. Jazz finished the 2012-13 season with Mo Williams, Tinsley and Watson as their PG's. Mo was clearly not going to return, So the Jazz headed into the draft with Tinsley and Watson as the only PG's with experience in the Jazz' system (albeit I think they were both FA's after the season). So really, the Jazz - IINM - had ZERO PG's on the roster at the time of the draft.

JLIII was signed after the draft (in July). Garrett was signed during the season (Nov 2013) and Clark was plucked from a summer league roster. But Clark was not really a PG - and neither was/is Burks. BTW, Gaines goes back to 2009-10.

So yes, I stand by my original statement: when you've screwed the pooch by only having two decrepit geriatrics as your likely returnees at PG, you BETTER draft one. DL would have taken McCollum or MCW had he not selected Burke. Or he would have taken Schroder at #14.
 
trading Hayward now would make no sense, but I suppose all options are on the table for the FO later on and rightfully so : Keept the team growing, hopefully we make the Playoffs, keep all players improving and at some point decisions will have to be made in regards to personnel to try and go to the next level.

Will the team be able to go to that next level as it is (with Exum and Gobert's improvement as keys), or will there need to be some consolidation around a trade for a superstar?

In such scenarios I don't think any player is actually completely off limits, even Gobert while defensively fantastic could be tradeable for the right (ie very very juicy) package. So if you tell me that in the next year Hayward + x get traded, I wouldn't be surprised nor mad, it's part of the business.
 
If he it's going to get another max contract that will be 25-30 million then I'm down with trading him for some good stuff
 
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