HipHopAnonymous
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I blame the refs for the 10 free throws missed. Including technical free throws.
Officiating in Jazz-Clippers game
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I blame the refs for the 10 free throws missed. Including technical free throws.
That first foul on Millsap was ridiculous, not to mention the goal tend on Hayward, and the outofbounds play.
I was watching, thinking "how could the refs possibly have called that, maybe I missed something"
but seeing the replays, those are beyond the realm of refs just making a mistake, it looks like they are going out of their way to favor one team, and not even being subtle about it.
There were many less obvious examples too.
Jefferson alone was drawing contact on at least 5 inside shots in the first half that weren't called for the and one, unless the defender jumped and literally landed on top of him, even then I was wondering if the refs would finally blow a whistle.
I was watching, thinking "how could the refs possibly have called that, maybe I missed something"
but seeing the replays, those are beyond the realm of refs just making a mistake, it looks like they are going out of their way to favor one team, and not even being subtle about it.
There were many less obvious examples too.
Jefferson alone was drawing contact on at least 5 inside shots in the first half that weren't called for the and one, unless the defender jumped and literally landed on top of him, even then I was wondering if the refs would finally blow a whistle.
Why fight the inevitable. The refs suck. They have for a long long time.
Fakers Luck
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I can't believe people continue to blame NBA officiating for their team's own shortcomings. The Jazz just should have dominated the game from the beginning by not ever missing any shots and then just stomped on their opponents neck by stealing the ball from them whenever the Clippers inbounded the ball. That way, officiating discrepancies don't make a difference. So what if the average NBA game is decided by only a few possessions? We're talking about the credibility of the entire sport. Paaleeeese!
If there was even the slightest evidence that NBA ref's were biased, then just how badly tainted would the credibility of this cash-cow they call the NBA be? If it was proven to be nothing more than a less obvious version of the WWE, then a lot of people would look pretty silly, wouldn't they? Think of all the media people who spend their entire career talking and writing about something that is merely a fantasy. What about the millions upon millions of fans who spend countless time and money watching, thinking and discussing something which turns out to be utter nonsense? Yeah, right. There's way too much at stake to question the NBA's credibility.
If there was even the slightest evidence that NBA ref's were biased, then just how badly tainted would the credibility of this cash-cow they call the NBA be? If it was proven to be nothing more than a less obvious version of the WWE, then a lot of people would look pretty silly, wouldn't they? Think of all the media people who spend their entire career talking and writing about something that is merely a fantasy. What about the millions upon millions of fans who spend countless time and money watching, thinking and discussing something which turns out to be utter nonsense? Yeah, right. There's way too much at stake to question the NBA's credibility.
I think it is more that incompetence. The NBA game has become so physical that basketball skills are secondary to physicality and toughness. So much physical play is tolerated that the line between a foul and a wrestling match has become blurred. The fact that Hayward was called called for the Double T, when he was just trying to get Mo to let go of him is evidence of my point.
The Griffin flop... well that is also a result of the level of physicality that is common in the NBA game. There is so much contact that it is hard to tell who supplied the force.
I still watch the Jazz, but beyond that, I find the games so ugly, that I have lost a lot of interest. The special rules depending on whether you are a star, rookie, or whatever also play in to it.
I though the GS game was a joke. Just push people around. That will take them out of their game.
Sorry for the vent.... I have been waiting for a while to get this off my chest.
I am sure there will be those who disagree, but I think the NBA game has lost some of its luster, and the officiating is part of the problem.
The Griffin flop... well that is also a result of the level of physicality that is common in the NBA game. There is so much contact that it is hard to tell who supplied the force.
I still watch the Jazz, but beyond that, I find the games so ugly, that I have lost a lot of interest. The special rules depending on whether you are a star, rookie, or whatever also play in to it.
I though the GS game was a joke. Just push people around. That will take them out of their game.
Sorry for the vent.... I have been waiting for a while to get this off my chest.
I am sure there will be those who disagree, but I think the NBA game has lost some of its luster, and the officiating is part of the problem.
I'm with the refs, Clippers, and Stern on this.
First of all, look at that first fould on Sap, did you see the look on his face. You can tell he had the intent to do something harmful to the Golden Boy, and you can't even think it. We are judged after the intents of our hearts after all.
Secondly, 2nd year white players should know better than to attempt athletic plays, or jump high enough to block a shot into the stands. It just looks wrong, and if it looks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Hayward is either on steroids, or he pushed off of some invisible Clippers player to get that high... clearly. The goaltending call was just to make it so Hayward did not get into foul trouble, it was really a charitable gift from the ref.
Finally, if a flop happens on the road, and the ref is paid to not see it, does it still count as a foul? The answer is yes. Trout and I discussed this in another thread, and the answer came out to be a definite maybe. Stern has orchestrated the rise of the Clippers, and he will continue to do so through any means available to him. If that means Sap gets called for a foul on an obvious flop, so be it. Do not cross David "Tony Montana" Stern. Griffin was trained well, but not well enough. He needs to make it look more natural. You can see him get ready, set his legs, and tense up before the contact and orchestrated fall. He's an amateur thesbian at best, and but will continue to get the calls because his godfather has his back, and owns the refs. You just don't fight the mob, you will not win, and you will be out money as Mr Cuban continues to learn.
Oh, p.s. -- we can blame the refs. Even though some people say (insert nerd voice) "we cant blame missed shots, free throws, rebounds, or lack of hustle on the refs"... while that is true sort of , it's also a lame argument that if we were only 5 possessions better than the Clippers instead of 3 possessions better we would have won the game. Yes if we crushed and destroyed every team the refs couldn't ruin it for us... but we are not that good. I see no problem in blaming the refs here and there when we are still better than another team on a given night, and the refs hand the game to the other team. Yes we can take responsibility and we cannot control things like that... but it still sticks in my craw that we would have to be much better than a team to win, instead of just a bit better than them.
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First of all, look at that first fould on Sap, did you see the look on his face. You can tell he had the intent to do something harmful to the Golden Boy, and you can't even think it. We are judged after the intents of our hearts after all.
Secondly, 2nd year white players should know better than to attempt athletic plays, or jump high enough to block a shot into the stands. It just looks wrong, and if it looks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Hayward is either on steroids, or he pushed off of some invisible Clippers player to get that high... clearly. The goaltending call was just to make it so Hayward did not get into foul trouble, it was really a charitable gift from the ref.
Finally, if a flop happens on the road, and the ref is paid to not see it, does it still count as a foul? The answer is yes. Trout and I discussed this in another thread, and the answer came out to be a definite maybe. Stern has orchestrated the rise of the Clippers, and he will continue to do so through any means available to him. If that means Sap gets called for a foul on an obvious flop, so be it. Do not cross David "Tony Montana" Stern. Griffin was trained well, but not well enough. He needs to make it look more natural. You can see him get ready, set his legs, and tense up before the contact and orchestrated fall. He's an amateur thesbian at best, and but will continue to get the calls because his godfather has his back, and owns the refs. You just don't fight the mob, you will not win, and you will be out money as Mr Cuban continues to learn.
Oh, p.s. -- we can blame the refs. Even though some people say (insert nerd voice) "we cant blame missed shots, free throws, rebounds, or lack of hustle on the refs"... while that is true sort of , it's also a lame argument that if we were only 5 possessions better than the Clippers instead of 3 possessions better we would have won the game. Yes if we crushed and destroyed every team the refs couldn't ruin it for us... but we are not that good. I see no problem in blaming the refs here and there when we are still better than another team on a given night, and the refs hand the game to the other team. Yes we can take responsibility and we cannot control things like that... but it still sticks in my craw that we would have to be much better than a team to win, instead of just a bit better than them.
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Dang that was good.
Back in the 08 playoffs, when LA was clearly getting major help from the refs, especially after game 4, lots of people were calling in to KFAN to complain and all the hosts told everyone to shut up.
I wrote in to their board and basically said what is bolded. They actually read my comments on the air and mentioned my "bad attitude" for a couple of days.
Chad Feldheimer
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Wow those two calls on Millsap were horrid.