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Oh Good! A War With Iran!

Cripple Iran with unrelenting sanctions and freeze money supplies to their country. If they continue to act as an aggressor, that's when military options should come into play.

I think that would make them more desperate and force them to develop nukes faster.
 
Iran is no joke, the Persian have never lost an inch of territory throughout history, forget about a successful ground invasion. Besides that, the US would be fighting a losing war, the global spectrum is changing, and the US external policies are becoming ever less popular in the world. There’s more things to fix at home anyway.

This whole oil tanker thing stinks, takes me back to the “phantom” WMD’s found in Irak.
 
That was a miscalculation based on misunderstood communications with Bush 41's team, IIRC.
So there isn't a possibility of a miscalculation based on miscommunication with perhaps unknown talks with another power? Or is it only communication with Americans that cause such miscalculation?
 
Iran is no joke, the Persian have never lost an inch of territory throughout history, forget about a successful ground invasion. Besides that, the US would be fighting a losing war, the global spectrum is changing, and the US external policies are becoming ever less popular in the world. There’s more things to fix at home anyway.

This whole oil tanker thing stinks, takes me back to the “phantom” WMD’s found in Irak.
The funny thing about the "phantom" WMDs in Iraq is that they weren't phantoms at all. They had used WMDs against their own people. They had known facilities for producing them and had been sanctioned for it in the past. They also refused to allow inspectors in to verify it one way or the other per their previous agreements with the safety council. And the intelligence community at Large believed they still had them since satellite imagery and informants implied that was the case. Turns out they had removed them, possibly very recently.

But everyone acts like bush sat there is his Lair of Ultimate Evil with the ghost of Hitler and the Axis of Evil spitballing ideas.

Bush: "Hey here's one, what if we SAY they have weapons of mass destruction?"

Ghost of Hitler: "oh you devious sonofabitch"

Good ****ing hell there is a difference between being WRONG and LYING you stupid ****ers cannot get through your ****ing thick skulls.
 
The funny thing about the "phantom" WMDs in Iraq is that they weren't phantoms at all. They had used WMDs against their own people. They had known facilities for producing them and had been sanctioned for it in the past. They also refused to allow inspectors in to verify it one way or the other per their previous agreements with the safety council. And the intelligence community at Large believed they still had them since satellite imagery and informants implied that was the case. Turns out they had removed them, possibly very recently.

But everyone acts like bush sat there is his Lair of Ultimate Evil with the ghost of Hitler and the Axis of Evil spitballing ideas.

Bush: "Hey here's one, what if we SAY they have weapons of mass destruction?"

Ghost of Hitler: "oh you devious sonofabitch"

Good ****ing hell there is a difference between being WRONG and LYING you stupid ****ers cannot get through your ****ing thick skulls.

No need to be disrespectful, was there any tangible proof of both the production of WMDs and using them against their own people? I can’t honestly remember any. And, what has been the outcome of the invasion? Is Irak all fixed?
 
No need to be disrespectful, was there any tangible proof of both the production of WMDs and using them against their own people? I can’t honestly remember any. And, what has been the outcome of the invasion? Is Irak all fixed?

Chemical weapons are considered a form of WMD. In 1988, late in the Iraq-Iran war, Saddam used chemical weapons against the Kurds in Iraq, killing some 5000 people I believe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack
 
No need to be disrespectful, was there any tangible proof of both the production of WMDs and using them against their own people? I can’t honestly remember any. And, what has been the outcome of the invasion? Is Irak all fixed?
I never said the war accomplished it's goals. It just gets beyond ridiculous hearing the revisionist history about it in convenient sound-bites when anyone with a brain that partially functions knows it was more complicated than "bush lied people died". Why did so many Democrats vote to go to war then when they had the same intelligence the republicans did?
 
Chemical weapons are considered a form of WMD. In 1988, late in the Iraq-Iran war, Saddam used chemical weapons against the Kurds in Iraq, killing some 5000 people I believe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack
This. Also the war was largely justified on intelligence that showed a strong likelihood of Iraq continuing to produce said weapons. But the ultimate justification was refusal to agree with the terms of the UN security council agreements to allow independent investigators into the country, which Iraq continually refused to comply with.

And the use of hyperbole seems to be the only method to get a point across to people who only get their news in 10 second sound bites from CNN or fox news.
 
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